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2 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

You have misinterpreted what covenants are upheld and how. That's all. 

No, I am not.  God cannot lie, so his covenant stands.  There is no misunderstanding on my part what so ever.

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Just now, OneLight said:

Your own anti-Semitic beliefs is glaring.  Jewish people, as all the Apostles are, were saved.

Romans 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

The Apostles were rejected by the Jewish leaders and were labelled Christians by them as an insult but they took that label and made it there own. The Jews then killed the Christians because they were no longer Jews!!! Learn your Bible and your history!!!

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3 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Jews only come from Judah. Hebrews come from Abraham. All Jews and the other tribes are Hebrews. 

The name Jew derived from the word Judah, which is true, but that is not the meaning of how Paul used the term.  Paul used the term Jews as a nation, not just one sect.

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2 minutes ago, OneLight said:

No, I am not.  God cannot lie, so his covenant stands.  There is no misunderstanding on my part what so ever.

Galatians 3:16 
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.
 
That promise was to those who believe in Christ THE SEED!  They are Christians!!! NOT JEWS!!!
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Just now, OneLight said:

The name Jew derived from the word Judah, which is true, but that is not the meaning of how Paul used the term.  Paul used the term Jews as a nation, not just one sect.

 

Please provide the scripture you are referring to. 

 

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2 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

The Apostles were rejected by the Jewish leaders and were labelled Christians by them as an insult but they took that label and made it there own. The Jews then killed the Christians because they were no longer Jews!!! Learn your Bible and your history!!!

The Jewish leaders did not label the followers of The Way Christians.  They were first called Christians in Antioch.

I know my biblical history.  What I refuse to do is twist scripture to fit into a false teaching as Replacement Theology.

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5 minutes ago, OneLight said:

The Jewish leaders did not label the followers of The Way Christians.  They were first called Christians in Antioch.

I know my biblical history.  What I refuse to do is twist scripture to fit into a false teaching as Replacement Theology.

I didn't say the Jewish leaders called them Christians, who labelled them is lost to history but it was meant as an insult. What is known is the Jews killed the Christians.

 

Now do you think Jews are going to Heaven?

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15 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

So then you agree then that Jews will go to Hell? Yes or No? 

Not all Jews will go to hell, as not all French, English, Americans, Iranians, etc.  You see, since you refuse to accept that Jews are not the religion of Judaism, you keep asking the same questions.  This is one of your errors in understand.

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11 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Please provide the scripture you are referring to.

I did.  In Romans 1:16, but there are many more.  https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=NKJV&quicksearch=Jew&begin=52&end=52

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Just now, OneLight said:

Not all Jews will go to hell, as not all French, English, Americans, Iranians, etc.  You see, since you refuse to accept that Jews are not the religion of Judaism, you keep asking the same questions.  This is one of your errors in understand.

Judaism is the region of the Jews they are one and the same. Jew, Jewish, Judaism; All the same thing. They are not a nation. You are twisting scripture and language. Totally confusing what is already written.  

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