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It would be my position that Paul would have known all about the 7th trump as the last trump. 

Paul is speaking of the end of the age when the gathering takes place. In the comprehensive study of the end of the age, Revelation, there are 7 trumps, with the 7 sounded in order, the 7th as the last.

Paul would have had ample opportunity to learn this either during the meeting with Jesus, or in the times he heard from the Lord after this, or when he took instruction from the apostles, as recorded in scripture, or all of the above.

Anyway, I don't see an 8th trump.

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14 minutes ago, Diaste said:

Paul would have had ample opportunity to learn this either during the meeting with Jesus, or in the times he heard from the Lord after this, or when he took instruction from the apostles, as recorded in scripture, or all of the above.

Good point. In fact Paul said  1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Paul not only met personally with Jesus, but also had access to at least Luke's gospel, as well as Galatians 2:1-2 ¶ Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

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On 10/20/2015 at 9:12 PM, Ezra said:

Since God does not blow trumpets, but the angels do (and men do also), "the trump of God" simply means a trumpet sound authorized by God for a specific purpose.  It could well have a connection with the OT, but it certainly has no connection with trumpet judgments.  I would take "last trumpet" to mean the last trumpet sound that any saint of God will hear.

I agree.

Really looking at, "15 And the seventh angel sounded;", this moment is all about our Father, OF God;

"The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." 

The earth now becomes the kingdom OF the Lord and OF his Christ. People will likely have their things in this coming world, economies and such perhaps and yet all that is of God.

16 "And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,"

Clearly all about our Father. 

17 "Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned."

The worship OF God for the mighy works OF God, the eternal nature, the power, the authority, all of God.

18 "And the nations were angry,and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

Judgement and reward all all OF God as well. Judgment and reward are given to others but all that comes from the Lord and the concept and manifestation of judgment and reward of the eternal Father is OF him.

So the trumpet; OF God. 

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4 hours ago, JoeChan82 said:

Good point. In fact Paul said  1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Paul not only met personally with Jesus, but also had access to at least Luke's gospel, as well as Galatians 2:1-2 ¶ Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Indeed. I have heard many times that Paul could not have known this or that about the end of the age. I find it a bit limiting when the eternal, omniscient God is involved. Jesus knew in the gospels, told the apostles, Paul knew.

A good point. The only way Paul could have written 1 Thess is through info from the source. The gathering at the end of the age was not mentioned in the OT, to my knowledge

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