~esther~ Posted October 30, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2015 If someone chooses not to do something because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives, is that biblical? I guess the question that I am asking is if the phrase "opening spiritual doors into our lives" are biblical.Example - someone doesn't take part in Halloween celebrations because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives.It almost sounds like a phrase that the word-faith-movement would use, but I could be mistaken and would really like to know if this statement is even biblical.Focus on my question please, this is not a Halloween related question, it's just an example I am using so please turn it into a Halloween thread!esther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~esther~ Posted October 30, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 50 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/2007 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm not quite sure I agree with that statement simplejeff - do you have biblical reference to say that if someone does something wrong they will receive curse, disease, punishment, etc? I don't agree with your answer, it simply does not line up with a forgiving God. If a Christian does something wrong there is forgiveness. My question is, whether the statement "opening spiritual doors in our lives" are even biblical. E.g. demonic doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted October 30, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Doesn’t even forgiven sin have its consequences? After all God forgave David but the baby still died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 30, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,829 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2015 If someone chooses not to do something because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives, is that biblical? I guess the question that I am asking is if the phrase "opening spiritual doors into our lives" are biblical.Example - someone doesn't take part in Halloween celebrations because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives.It almost sounds like a phrase that the word-faith-movement would use, but I could be mistaken and would really like to know if this statement is even biblical.Focus on my question please, this is not a Halloween related question, it's just an example I am using so please turn it into a Halloween thread!esther If someone chooses not to do something because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives, is that biblical? I guess the question that I am asking is if the phrase "opening spiritual doors into our lives" are biblical.Example - someone doesn't take part in Halloween celebrations because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives.It almost sounds like a phrase that the word-faith-movement would use, but I could be mistaken and would really like to know if this statement is even biblical.Focus on my question please, this is not a Halloween related question, it's just an example I am using so please turn it into a Halloween thread!esther Skipping the Halloween thing altogether, there are other things that do open doors. Ouija boards would be the first that comes to mind, although even that does not always open spiritual doors. It doesn't always contact a spirit.Saul going to see the Witch of Endor would be another. The Idols that Paul speaks of that people sacrifice food to would be another. Even the food itself if you know what it is and eat it anyway. But that doesn't always mean you have to accept what comes through that door and we should keep that in mind in judging people.To Halloween, can it open doors..... to some people yes it can, but does it to everyone, I would say no. As for us, we do hand out candy for my wife was a teacher and we have several of her students bring thier kids by.... but I got way too close during those years I was involved with the Occult for me to go all out and get involved... I would prefer to do away with the holiday, but that's just for me. Then again, anything that brings chocolate into our lives can't be all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted November 26, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 30/10/2015, 00:13:57, ~esther~ said: If someone chooses not to do something because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives, is that biblical? I guess the question that I am asking is if the phrase "opening spiritual doors into our lives" are biblical. I believe what you are asking is whether certain thoughts or activities will provide evil spirits with access to our lives and our minds. While the term "spiritual doors" is never used, it conveys the idea of access, so in that sense evil spirits can influence those who are not walking in the Spirit but after the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted November 27, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2015 On 10/30/2015, 2:13:57, ~esther~ said: If someone chooses not to do something because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives, is that biblical? I guess the question that I am asking is if the phrase "opening spiritual doors into our lives" are biblical. Example - someone doesn't take part in Halloween celebrations because they don't want to open spiritual doors into their lives. It almost sounds like a phrase that the word-faith-movement would use, but I could be mistaken and would really like to know if this statement is even biblical. Focus on my question please, this is not a Halloween related question, it's just an example I am using so please turn it into a Halloween thread! esther First off I would like to say that it is God alone who open doors for us to walk through and it is God alone who shuts doors that we cannot walk through. What God opens to us no man can shut and what God closes to us no man can open. We walk through spiritual doors as God opens them for us and the spiritual forces or the gates of hell shall not prevail (overtake or prosper) against the church of Jesus Christ. We are in a spiritual battle every single day as saints from the time we rise in the morning till the time we rises the next morning as spiritual forces of darkness are about us though we don't fight against flesh and blood nevertheless we are in a spiritual battle and we as saints of God either get up every day with our armor on and fight or we leave our armor behind and get wounded. Sometimes fatally wounded because we don't understand the nature of the battle that we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 28, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2015 On 11/21/2015, 2:33:41, simplejeff said: a "forgiving God?" ... Sure, He loves to forgive and made complete and perfect provision to. But most people are never forgiven. Demons? Sure-- the disciples rejoiced that the demons AND sickness were subject to them in Jesus Name, BUT only a "few" were set free from demons and healed -- the rest of society continued rebellious in their sin and wickedness and controlled by demons. Just because God has made provision for delivery and salvation doesn't mean people turn to Him and are set free or saved .... For the clearest examples in God's Word of the Truth of this TODAY read out loud slowly and prayerfully the first 3 or more chapters in the book of Revelation. ((et al)) "Most people are never forgiven"? You have absolutely no way of knowing that, jeff. You should never presume to say what God does or does not do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted November 28, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2015 On 11/25/2015, 9:38:44, simplejeff said: Have you read First and Second Corinthians ? re: KJ21 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. ASV For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep. AMP That [careless and unworthy participation] is the reason why many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep [in death]. AMPC That [careless and unworthy participation] is the reason many of you are weak and sickly, and quite enough of you have fallen into the sleep of death. BRG For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. CEB Because of this, many of you are weak and sick, and quite a few have died. CJB This is why many among you are weak and sick, and some have died! CEV That’s why many of you are sick and weak and why a lot of others have died. DARBY On this account many among you [are] weak and infirm, and a good many are fallen asleep. DLNT For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and many sleep. DRA Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep. ERV That is why many in your group are sick and weak, and many have died. ESV That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. The above are not written in the context of 'opening spiritual doors' but are referring to the verse which precedes 1Corinthians 11: 30............. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 28, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2015 Interesting discussion. Brother other one knows the pitfalls involved, but it is a difficult topic to discuss as there may be impressionable minds reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted November 28, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2015 Amen. I am just apprehensive of the venue, due to the discussions often becoming more of a stand-off and full blown argument of things, rather than a discussion that edifies believers, gives hope to non-believers, and glorifies God in what is actually communicated. At the same time, it IS important when a topic such as this is brought up, that each response be prayerful and considerate of ALL who might read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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