SINNERSAVED Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2015 OKAY, I see a few people using the references of the book of enoch, and its not part of the books in the bible, so how does this book play a role in our belief of God, should we use it , or is it not to be used? is it a book that should have been part of the bible? I could use some wisdom on this . for I did not learn about the torah until I asked and did research, so what does a person need to know, about the book of enoch, and is it a reliable source to go too ?. thank you in advance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2015 The book of Enoch is a apocryphal writing.Much of it is false and inaccurate.I guess it is a personal choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It is known to have errors, read at your own risk! lol Some say it gives you more understanding of what is not explained in the bible. I say if its not all truth I don't need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,036 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,781 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2015 It has always been part of the Ethiopian Bible, and several of the early Church Fathers used it and a few even thought it was inspired. It is referred to in the New Testament. It was known of by most during the time of Christ for there are fragments of many copies of it among the dead sea scrolls. So, if you read it you will find some things that are pretty sure translation problems. There are three separate books, from different places. Enoch 1 is from the Ethiopian Bible, Enoch 2 is basically the same story from a Slavic origin, and Enoch 3 is from Jewish Mysticism and that one I would not trust for much of anything..... you'd have to read it to understand. I think you will find that most of the general complaints about Enoch stems from this third book. Personally Enoch 1 seems to be pretty accurate to me. So my take on it is to read the thing for yourself and take what you consider as true and look carefully into the things that might be questionable. Most people who consider Genesis 6 as speaking of the Sons of God being angels usually give credence to Enoch, and those who believe they were the decedents of Seth usually consider Enoch to be a total fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Interesting study on the word apocryphal today. I have no opinion on the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted December 1, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,103 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,545 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted December 1, 2015 other one covered the subject well. 1 Enoch can be a valuable source for mature Christians, when discernment is used. Most parts of it are well-attested by the various Ethiopian manuscripts; some parts are vague and/or disputed, and therefore untrustworthy. Few people know that the last book written in the Bible, Revelation, is also the one that has the most variations among its extant manuscripts; this despite John's curse upon those who would tamper with it. Rev. 22:18-19 Isaiah also has a relatively large amount of variant texts. Satan always does his best to thwart the works of the prophets, of which Enoch was in the very highest tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I am not sure there are errors in it, but I don't believe there are books left out of our Bible that should be included, so I don't consider Enoch scripture. I have read 1 Enoch and 2 Enoch, and I see no problem with reading them. I wouldn't preach them for doctrine, but would give them the same amount of weight I would any extra-Biblical source. They could in theory be used for a reference, but no more than you would a quote or something from a book. You would have to take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 On 11/30/2015 8:32:18, SINNERSAVED said: OKAY, I see a few people using the references of the book of enoch, and its not part of the books in the bible, so how does this book play a role in our belief of God, should we use it , or is it not to be used? is it a book that should have been part of the bible? I could use some wisdom on this . for I did not learn about the torah until I asked and did research, so what does a person need to know, about the book of enoch, and is it a reliable source to go too ?. thank you in advance, The book of Enoch has historical value. As believers, we have 66 books of the Bible and that is all we need. The fact that only the 66 book of the Bible are the target of the enemy, the fact that skeptics only try to discredit those 66 books tells me that it is the Bible that is all we need. The enemy doesn't waste time on apocryphal books or pseudographical books. So I won't waste my time on them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted December 2, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted December 2, 2015 One thing that I wonder, concerning those who are interested in the Book of Enoch, is: "How much of the real Bible, do you have down pat, before you want to go exploring distractions?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted December 2, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted December 2, 2015 reading Enoch or Jubliees is no worse than what one is made to read in school or college; they ARE NOT the Bible and DO NOT replace the Bible; Ive read the Bible twice straight thru and many of the books in the Bible more than that; I still learned a couple things and got some insight how it was back then from reading these other books. If a book is mentioned in the Bible it would be better to read than what the liberal education forces one to read. just my opinion not asking anyone to agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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