enoob57 Posted December 11, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,770 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 11, 2015 As has been touched on by the family... all that we have began in is irrelevant to the reasoning of God >for it ends< thus we are to place reason into the eternal factor of that which does not end! This can only be done s/Spiritually letting go of the created element to all eternal value and seeing it as it is a pointer toward God and His Word whereby we bind our hearts in fulfillments without end...1 Jn 3:2-3 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. KJV It is when we shrink back into the created element to fashion our reason to the Word that error occurs... point in fact satan's created position as something to be reckoned in power- when in fact it is created thus placing the greatest and the least, as without regard, to Him (God) Who maintains all without border even in reason without end... there is only One Who is worthy of worship and when we present ourselves naked in being and without guile both broken and contrite because of the inabilities we have relied on outside of God and placed upon the created instance ->repentance is necessary... We are called to be in a place that we cannot be physically yet so are we called to be there! What then shall we do? Remain in the physical of impossible or s/Spiritually obey ( ? )Col 3 all! Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 11, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,770 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 11, 2015 On 12/10/2015 4:07:54, Kan said: What is this conflict going on, this war for thousands of years? Why are we still on earth? Hasn't Christ gained the victory for us, then what is God waiting for? Is there an end to the battle, and what is holding it back? As what I have said above will remedy much of what you ask in the entanglement of reason mixed within the darkness we are in... We must let go of concepts formed from error in order to replace with correct concepts of God thus bringing into alignment the reason that is from above! Most of what you are asking is 'why' when in reality should be awe and worship that we are called to be witnesses of our Great and Glorious God in the outworking of I AM that I AM ( ! ) The query of time is irrelevant to God in the pressure of it's passing... the query of conflict is irrelevant to God Who has already overcome... the query of where is irrelevant to God for the reason of omnipresence... the query of when is irrelevant to God Who 'IS' present in all times ... We the began by God exist in a place of error and to reason with God we must approach outside of the error or else fool ourselves in thinking He is apart of our conversation ( ! ) Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 So if the battle is between God and Satan, what have we to do with it? Why do we have to be in the picture? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2015 8 minutes ago, Kan said: So if the battle is between God and Satan, what have we to do with it? Why do we have to be in the picture? this does not sound like you KAN, why are you doubtful , in the divine work of God, for there are seasons and times , appointed times, and Gods word of when this will all unfold, for if God jumped the Gun , because your patience is running out, we would not be able to put our trust in Him. He is faithful and just to save the righteous and to take care of the unrighteous, but we need to wait upon the Lord, let us focus on the finished work of jesus , the son of God died for you , and knows what is going on, but God does not want any to perish, do you know the story of the one lost sheep,? but the second question what do we have to do with this ? we are the hands and feet, we are the body, we are here to share and preach the word of God to all of the world, it is us that need to do our part, who else would be doing this part, this is where we come in, you and me, but I have not told you anything ,you don't already know, patience of the saints, working out our salvation, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 17 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Yahshua said everyone is on one side or the other - no in-between. And most are on hasatan's side. ((Everyone is born consigned to sin, slaves of sin)). So the challenge is ... obvious. And for whatever reason, multitudes fail. Ok, the human race has fallen onto Satan's side, through sin. What was the issue before we fell into it? Answer - the sin/rebellion of Satan. Why was the battle not finished then - that is in heaven where it began? What was Satan's issue with God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2015 7 minutes ago, Kan said: Ok, the human race has fallen onto Satan's side, through sin. What was the issue before we fell into it? Answer - the sin/rebellion of Satan. Why was the battle not finished then - that is in heaven where it began? What was Satan's issue with God? Really, ? we know you know the answer , stop pulling our legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 8 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said: Really, ? we know you know the answer , stop pulling our legs I am asking because the Lord has given to others what I need, for the edification of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2015 4 minutes ago, Kan said: I am asking because the Lord has given to others what I need, for the edification of all. okay I get it , blessings brother ,..... nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 48 minutes ago, simplejeff said: It doesn't matter at all what Satan wanted nor why. Nor any person or any other living thing. Yahweh's Plan, Always Perfect and Eternal, is revealed exactly as He pleases. Ephesians ((Hebraic Roots Bible)) Chapter 3 1 For this cause, I, Paul, am the prisoner of Messiah Yahshua on behalf of you, the nations. 2 Have you indeed heard of the stewardship of the grace of Elohim given to me for you? ... ... 8 This grace was given to me, I being less than the least of all the saints, to preach the good news of the unsearchable riches of Messiah among the nations, 9 and to bring to light all, what is the fellowship of the mystery having been hidden from eternity in Elohim, the One creating all things through Yahshua Messiah, 10 so that now to the principalities and to the authorities in heaven might be made known through the Congregation the manifold wisdom of Elohim, 11 according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Messiah Yahshua ... ... ... Paul said in many places that the wisdom of God is revealed in Christ, and that we are to add knowledge to our faith. Faith does not suggest remaining in the dark. "might be made known through the congregation." See what I highlighted in your post. Surely, when it comes to salvation we are to know what is going on, and what the issues really are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,864 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,618 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2015 1 hour ago, Kan said: So if the battle is between God and Satan, what have we to do with it? Why do we have to be in the picture? according to Paul, we are to judge the angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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