1x1is1 Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,146 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 732 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/30/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1950 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I am pre-tribulation rapture, so to me, we can't be experiencing the tribulation yet. But I do agree that we are becoming desensitized. . . . but not "Z's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 53 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said: Just read the book of Revelation. Hello BoPeep, I like that just read revelation, well I have, many times, but if we did not have what believers hold on to be a, pre trib mid trib or post trib and just put that all aside for now, and just focus on what Jesus said that we will have trials and tribulation, and you will be hated for my name sake , there will be persecution ,hate, and even death to those that follow me, , I see around the world , that the christian and believers are dying and being killed all the day long and every day , and by the thousands, and I ask my self, how can anyone say we are not in tribulation with all this life loss and fighting for the word and faith in God, are we waiting to se when its our turn in America that then we call it tribulation, I think we are or have diis=connected our selves and is it me only that thinks something is really wrong and we are not thinking and seeing clearly whats going on around as ? to say this is not what the bible is saying ,,,YET ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said: Hello BoPeep, I like that just read revelation, well I have, many times, but if we did not have what believers hold on to be a, pre trib mid trib or post trib and just put that all aside for now, and just focus on what Jesus said that we will have trials and tribulation, and you will be hated for my name sake , there will be persecution ,hate, and even death to those that follow me, , I see around the world , that the christian and believers are dying and being killed all the day long and every day , and by the thousands, and I ask my self, how can anyone say we are not in tribulation with all this life loss and fighting for the word and faith in God, are we waiting to se when its our turn in America that then we call it tribulation, I think we are or have diis=connected our selves and is it me only that thinks something is really wrong and we are not thinking and seeing clearly whats going on around as ? to say this is not what the bible is saying ,,,YET ? The book of Revelation must be read literally.If you do so there is no way you would make any mistake that the seven year tribulation has already begun. Revelation 22:18-19 A Warning 18 For[a] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add[b] to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[c] his part from the Book[d] of Life, from the holy city, and fromthe things which are written in this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said: The book of Revelation must be read literally.If you do so there is no way you would make any mistake that the seven year tribulation has already begun. Revelation 22:18-19 A Warning 18 For[a] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add[b] to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[c] his part from the Book[d] of Life, from the holy city, and fromthe things which are written in this book. please don't get me wrong , I am not adding or trying to go against what is Gods word in the bible , but to be attentive to what is happening around us and the killing of believers , and I wonder what is it are we missing something here, I think you see my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said: please don't get me wrong , I am not adding or trying to go against what is Gods word in the bible , but to be attentive to what is happening around us and the killing of believers , and I wonder what is it are we missing something here, I think you see my concern. I think that we live in a world of trials and tribulations and we have since Adam and Eve.I believe that we are living in the end times and these times are the stepping stone to the tribulation.During the tribulation there will be billions of people killed.Now that is a lot of people.Have we seen that yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said: Okay I have been in many post here talking and defending my view of tribulation, and everyone with there view of if we, go through it if we don't, and I am so convinced, that we are in the tribulation and have been for thousands of years, when Jesus said you will have tribulation and people will hate you for my name sake, and we see that America, has turned its back on the one almighty and holy God, and then we see the people around the world persecuted and killed and driven from there home, and all of this violence to say they believe in God, and we sit here in our homes and like kings and queens, but then we have the nerve to say , we don't go through tribulation, , and others say people are being killed right now , and they have been for thousands of years ? so how am I confused here with people here on this web site saying we don't see tribulation, that's not Gods plan for the saved, but in turn, we see that people around the world getting killed for being Christian, and dying for the cause, shouldn't we bee ashamed of our selves to think as believers that they are not part of tribulation, and we will not see it, I think we have a deception of major proportions, and deniel to what is really happening around us , and what we are thinking, it does not match , and its not adding up , we in America , are watching for the signs to see the return of Christ, and in china or arab, country or korea, people are being prisoned and killed for the bible and God is illegal and holds the punishment of persecution , jail and death , I think this is a shame? I am going to make a bold and true statement and some may not want to agree , but I think our society and the news today speaks for it self, ur history claims it , and the bible has revealed it, if it be a tribulation, or great tribulation , or times of trials ,hardship and death to the believer, ? I believe we are in the tribulation and its just the beginning , and for all of those that are saying no, how do you dismiss the killings around the world and the Christians dying every day , does this not factor in to this equation ? if I am wrong ,let me know , but I will say we have already crossed this threshold , and our faith if you want to believe it or not is already being tested, and as time goes on it will get harder and more difficult to say we are not, I don't believe we are being honest in light of what the world is doing now, and we have become ammune and desensitized zombies, Well , I don't see the massive démonstrations, against for example ssm. and allied concepts, happening in your country that took place in France, for example . Why , I Wonder ? I think the tribulation has started here in the west by forcing politically correct false ideas and twisting God's word so that many are afraid and confused . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said: thank you for that , but that would be your view, I think different, but that's what makes us all unique I would say We are not expected to have "unique" views on Bible truth, and "think differently" at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said: ... I believe we are in the tribulation and its just the beginning , and for all of those that are saying no, how do you dismiss the killings around the world and the Christians dying every day , does this not factor in to this equation ?.... We've been in the "end times" since the last chapter of Acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, Ezra said: We are not expected to have "unique" views on Bible truth, and "think differently" at every opportunity. Ezra you quoted me wrong on what I said , what makes us unique , not the view of the bible , I was talking us as individuals are all same and yet different in character , for I know Gods word is Gods word, and truth is truth , thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted January 6, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2016 Then. You know who the anti-Christ is and where he is , what the one world religion is and that no one can worship but that one world religion and you know who the leader of the world as he tells us what to do and when. You also have not been able to purchase anything in the stores to eat or wear because you have no mark of the beast and are I hiding. Am I correct?? There is no freedom anywhere in the world? This is not even close to what the tribulation will be like for EVERYONE who does not toe the line. No escape, no food, no freedom,no heat in winter or air conditioning in the summer, no church for you to enter, no money because you need the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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