Phoneix123 Posted January 7, 2016 Group: Newbie Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2016 How to control the anger when you come to know that the person whom you trusted the most have betrayed you ? It's not just the one , so many .. Also how to overcome paranoidism after these bitter experiences ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelf324 Posted January 8, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 210 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) You just described two details of a saved Christian. They have anger issues after they just got saved. Why? Because everyone is turning on them. This bring paranoia which is common. If your truly saved and your reading the KJV and praying daily. The Holy Ghost will bear fruit one of the traits is long-suffering. This means slow to anger but remember being angry is not sin as long as it's controlled. Be ye angry but Sin not. You should expect betrayal. Children of the light don't get along with children of the night. The spirit and flesh are contrary to each other. Keep seeking God and peace will eventually rule in your heart. You now stand for absolute truth. Jesus! But your living in a world of lies ruled by the Father of it so expect isolation, anger and betrayal. That's why the Holy Ghost is the Comforter he will guide you through it if you let him. All of what I just said means nothing if you're not Truly saved so make absolutely sure you are! Edited January 8, 2016 by manuelf324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted January 8, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted January 8, 2016 7 hours ago, manuelf324 said: If your truly saved and your reading the KJV and praying daily. I do not feel that I should let that sentence pass, uncommented. The KJV does not have a monopoly on Biblical truth, plenty of believers get along just fine, learning theology and how to live a live, pleasing to God, and learning how to serve others using other Bible version. Bible version focus, is more of an in house debate, and does not belong in the seekers lounge. A better thing to have said would have been "if you're truly saved and you're reading the Bible and praying daily - I recommend the KJV" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2016 On 1/7/2016 at 10:02 PM, Phoneix123 said: How to control the anger when you come to know that the person whom you trusted the most have betrayed you ? It's not just the one , so many .. Also how to overcome paranoidism after these bitter experiences ? It is easy to become angry and to feel justified. But then I think of Jesus hanging from the cross, and I think of his passion and death and how what happened to him was far worse than anything that has happened to me, and yet he accepted it meekly, and never once even entertained the thought of anger. And I think how do I have a right to be angry over something so small in comparison? It helps me to deal with what happened to me and put it in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted January 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,224 Content Per Day: 3.34 Reputation: 16,647 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 8, 2016 Christians are commanded to forgive. The verse after the Lord's prayer says if we don't forgive others, neither will our Father in heaven forgive us our tresspases. We cannot do this without the life of Christ in us praying on the cross, Father forgive them, they know not what they do! Jesus in us is still forgiving and we need to allow Him in us to express that forgiveness. Otherwise the torment of hatred will destroy us. It is the matter of the will. We choose to forgive. That does not mean you need to take her back as your wife. It does mean you can live at peace with yourself and with her, knowing what she is. But God took Israel back time after time when she committed spiritual adultry with other gods (Hosea) until she rejected His Son. Still there will be a time of reconcilliation in the last days when all Israel will be saved. Ask yourself if you have treated her the way Christ treats the church and lay down His life for her. Your wifes conduct shows she is not a believer. If we love Him we will keep His commandments. She should be allowed to divorse if it is her choice not to live with you. If you are not a Christian you will be powerless to forgive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2016 On 07/01/2016 at 11:02 PM, Phoneix123 said: How to control the anger when you come to know that the person whom you trusted the most have betrayed you ? It's not just the one , so many .. Also how to overcome paranoidism after these bitter experiences ? Betrayal by others is a fact of life. To find a genuine friend or confidante is a rarity. One need not get paranoid about this. At the same time, one should reserve complete trust in others until one is sure about their character. Even then, some things are not to be shared with others. The way to deal with betrayal is to decide that the evil deeds of others will not control our attitudes and beliefs. Anger hurts you more than anyone else. And there are always literal punching bags (in gyms) to take out your frustrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petula Posted January 10, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,499 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,665 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/31/1955 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sadly dear , those things are a part of life , not a nice part , but almost every one experiences them . The wonderful , glorious thing is that as Christians we have a constant companion , Jesus who loves us unconditionally. As we get older , we move , we grow , we change and so does everyone around us . Trust Jesus , follow his word ( bible ) people are not perfect , our Lord is . Forgive those who have hurt you , give the whole thing to the Lord , and walk on with Jesus God bless you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted January 11, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,150 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 1/7/2016 at 0:02 AM, Phoneix123 said: How to control the anger when you come to know that the person whom you trusted the most have betrayed you ? It's not just the one , so many .. Also how to overcome paranoidism after these bitter experiences ? We are not told anywhere to trust people, we are told to trust the Lord with our lives, our souls, our futures. There is a scripture that says "we love because He first loved us first". If we see the truth, the Lord loved us even though we abandoned him, rejected him, betrayed him, or at least we sinned against him in selfishness. My answer is formed around awareness of the state of the flesh. 1. Humble ourselfs and know we do pretty much to others the things they do that hurt us so bad. 2. We have a helper. Romans 5:5 is something we all need to be supllied with to walk in peace and hope with the Lord. 3. What ever people do to you or say about you say's nothing about who you are, where life will take you or what you will become. It only tells you where "they" are on the path of life. As ambassodors for the gosple hurts give us dicernment on what to pray for them and ourselves. The huge majority of people do not have Christ fully formed in them, so if you are around people, you will see fruit of the flesh and there is really very little fruit of the Spirit in worldly people. So we keep praying for fruit in our brothers and sisters lives and we keep praying for their fight to put the flesh to death and walk by the Spirit. 4.. We all are gonna fall but the more we practice the more fruit we bare. We have to remember everything good in man origanates from God, so If a man does you good, God did good to you through that man. If a person does evil against you, well thats just the nature of people and we are all people in need of Christ in us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted January 15, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 15, 2016 Betrayal can be worse than death. You have every right to be angry. The Bible says "be angry and sin not" Ephesians 4:26. Use anger constructively, become on fire with zeal, work with renewed determination for the truth. Prayer for them is the most effectual thing. The Lord will listen to you, and some of the results you will see to your reward, but other good results will be seen when you enter heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeszero Posted January 16, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 42 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/03/1973 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 7/01/2016 at 5:02 PM, Phoneix123 said: How to control the anger when you come to know that the person whom you trusted the most have betrayed you ? It's not just the one , so many .. Also how to overcome paranoidism after these bitter experiences ? I know you're hurting and it doesn't seem that the hurt will go away, but it all comes down to you. You don't have to hold on to world and how people make you feel, but only you can choose when you let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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