NO ONE KNOWS the Day or Hour, except the FATHER ?

[SINNERSAVED]

No Man knows the day or the hour, ? is this really true ?

does it mean , when heaven or earth passes away , or does it mean when Jesus returns,

if by looking at the old testament , we can see and figure out the time, that Jesus came riding in on a donkey ?

was crucified , and rose from the dead,  then why are we not able to figure out the time He returns again, is it really what it is stating,

that know one will know the day or hour, or is this a idiom , like coming as a thief in the night ?

for I think we have not covered this, and we take it the English way , and not the jewish way, ?

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, SINNERSAVED said:

No Man knows the day or the hour, ? is this really true ?

It is true as far as humanity is concerned. But now that Christ has ascended, and is glorified, exalted, and enthroned, He does know fully and exactly what the Father and the Spirit know.  Indeed He already told the Jewish leaders that He would come with power and great glory.

[Marilyn C]

Hi SINNERSAVED,

I agree with Ezra. Remember the Lord tells the Body of Christ that they are not in darkness that this day should overtake them as a thief. (1 Thess. 5: 4) And yes I believe the details are in Daniel & Revelation.

Marilyn.

[SINNERSAVED]

6 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi SINNERSAVED,

I agree with Ezra. Remember the Lord tells the Body of Christ that they are not in darkness that this day should overtake them as a thief. (1 Thess. 5: 4) And yes I believe the details are in Daniel & Revelation.

Marilyn.

yes they are , and with a little of seeking God, and knowing some historic value, it is not hard to understand this scripture,

blessings sister

[Watching for Jesus]

I agree with Marilyn C, that the details are in Daniel and Revelation, and also in other books of the Bible.  I believe we can and will know the day; the day being the day of the Second Coming of Jesus.

[SINNERSAVED]

this is true, we are not top be ignorant of the warnings and why we are told to be watching, and seeking for we will know , and for it is appointed times, or seasons, that are set, we have feasts of God and not of man or mans traditions, and this would be major in the plan of God for His people and believers,  and so knowledge is good to have, but endurance to hang on to the end is the key, to stay faithful to he bridegroom, and to give our selves to Him, it all joins nicely together and its just putting the pieces of the puzzle together, by the spirit we are shown, and by faith we follow, and by the word of God , we know it to be truth , and important , to believe,

[Montana Marv]

Or is this referring to when the Bridegroom comes for His Bride (Matt 25:13)  or Be on watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back (Mark 32:35)  For He will settle accounts with those He has entrusted things to (He will give rewards/crowns).

In Christ

Montana Marv

[missmuffet]

With that said, let us be abundantly clear: we do not believe that God has revealed to anyone when Jesus is coming back, and we see nothing in Scripture which indicates that God will ever reveal to anyone when Jesus is coming back. Matthew 24:36-44, while spoken directly to the people in Jesus’ time, also contains a general principle. The timing of Jesus’ return and the end of the age is not for us to know. Scripture nowhere encourages us to try to determine the date. Rather, we are to “keep watch, because we do not know on which day our Lord will come” (v. 42). We are to “be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when we do not expect Him” (v. 44). The force of Jesus’ words diminishes if at some point in the future someone will be able to determine when He is coming back. If the date is discovered, we no longer need to “keep watch” or “be ready.” So, with the principle of Matthew 24:36-44 is mind, no, it is not possible for anyone to know the date that Jesus is coming back.
The key points are (1) the Bible nowhere encourages us to attempt to discover the timing of Jesus’ return and (2) the Bible gives no explicit data by which the timing of Jesus’ return can be determined. Rather than developing wild and speculative calculations to determine when Jesus is coming back, the Bible encourages us to “keep watch” and “be ready” (Matthew 24:42-44). The fact that the day of Jesus’ return is unknown should motivate us to live every day in light of the imminence of Christ’s return.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-coming-back.html

[Omegaman 3.0]

On 1/20/2016 at 4:17 AM, Montana Marv said:

Or is this referring to when the Bridegroom comes for His Bride (Matt 25:13)  or Be on watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back (Mark 32:35)  For He will settle accounts with those He has entrusted things to (He will give rewards/crowns).

In Christ

Montana Marv

That does not seem warranted, because . . . .

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Since He is speaking about that day (as opposed to the event He is not spoken about yet in Matt 25), we should look backwards to what He had just said, to understand what "that day" is a reference to.

Just prior He said:

30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

There we can see that He is speaking of His glorious appearing to gather the elect, no question about that. At verse 30, we see He used the word "then". "Then" also points us backward, to what he was just speaking about, in other words 'when is then'?

Going back still earlier in Matt 24, we see when the 'then' is:

29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days"

‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

So, again, no doubts, it is spelled out. 'Then' is immediately after the tribulation. So, what we see in no uncertain terms, if we are honest and deal with the text itself, is that 

1 No one knows (literally no one knew) the day

2 That day would be when Jesus returns visibly in glory, to gather the elect

3 That this will happen, after the tribulation

So, proper exegesis does not say that this is a reference to the Bridegroom and the bride of Matt 25. However . . . . 

Since Matt 24 and 25, are all part of the same discourse, if would not be unreasonable to assume, that the Bridegroom story is an extension of what Jesus is talking about, that being His coming (that is a question the disciples asked about anyway that prompted this discourse) after the tribulation.

So, if you like, feel free to consider that the Bridegroom is coming, after the tribulation.

Also, it might be noted, that Matt 24:36 (the very verse in question) uses the words "that day":

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Do a search on "that day", and you will find many times that "the day of the Lord", is refered to as "that day". Additionally you will see, when you search out "the days of the Lord", that is also is connected to the whole sun, moon stars things, that Jesus spoke of as "immediately after the tribulation". 

Zeph 1 is an interesting read in this regard, so are Joel chapters 2 and three, for those who like seeing things that the Lord may well have been referring to.

 

[Omegaman 3.0]

3 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

With that said, let us be abundantly clear: we do not believe that God has revealed to anyone when Jesus is coming back, and we see nothing in Scripture which indicates that God will ever reveal to anyone when Jesus is coming back. Matthew 24:36-44, while spoken directly to the people in Jesus’ time, also contains a general principle. The timing of Jesus’ return and the end of the age is not for us to know. Scripture nowhere encourages us to try to determine the date. Rather, we are to “keep watch, because we do not know on which day our Lord will come” (v. 42). We are to “be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when we do not expect Him” (v. 44). The force of Jesus’ words diminishes if at some point in the future someone will be able to determine when He is coming back. If the date is discovered, we no longer need to “keep watch” or “be ready.” So, with the principle of Matthew 24:36-44 is mind, no, it is not possible for anyone to know the date that Jesus is coming back.
The key points are (1) the Bible nowhere encourages us to attempt to discover the timing of Jesus’ return and (2) the Bible gives no explicit data by which the timing of Jesus’ return can be determined. Rather than developing wild and speculative calculations to determine when Jesus is coming back, the Bible encourages us to “keep watch” and “be ready” (Matthew 24:42-44). The fact that the day of Jesus’ return is unknown should motivate us to live every day in light of the imminence of Christ’s return.

 

Yes, this is one of those amusing ideas where pre-tribbers, who like to say "we take the Bible literally", need to say instead, "we take the Bible literally, except when it does not support our view"