Muslims demand cross be removed from Swiss flag

[Guest Teditis]

I wouldn't pretend to make it sound easy to love our enemies... but the commandment

of Jesus still stands for all of us to follow. No other scripture verses contradict that command.

[other one]

Just now, Thallasa said:

 

maybe a glitch as I was replying to Oakwood on the bombing of Japan,and there was a 'funny' window ? ?

Well, OK.....   but while you are here, I don't believe what we were told in the history books about bombing Japan either.....   or Pearl Harbor or a whole lot of things we were taught in our history class.....

[other one]

2 minutes ago, Teditis said:

I wouldn't pretend to make it sound easy to love our enemies... but the commandment

of Jesus still stands for all of us to follow. No other scripture verses contradict that command.

I quote myself:

exactly how does one love an enemy that wants to cut off the heads of your grand children?  what do you do when they come for them?

[Guest Teditis]

Just now, other one said:

I quote myself:

exactly how does one love an enemy that wants to cut off the heads of your grand children?  what do you do when they come for them?

I guess talk to God about it, to start...

[Guest Thallasa]

17 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

I don't understand your comment regarding individual liberty leading to anarchy.  Are you advocating totalitarianism society?

No of course  not but there are responsibilities .We will be held accountable ,and Switzerland is no Holy place .

[SINNERSAVED]

3 hours ago, hmbld said:

I question the need to bomb Japan when they were running out of resources, air bombing was effective, and the Soviet Union just declared war on Japan.  Why is it a stupid question to ask why we don't continue to obliterate evil with an atom bomb when in the long run it could be justified as saving lives?  

Japan didn't invade Pearl Harbor, but did attack it.  During a discussion last month at work, I realized I had no idea why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, I just remember what was taught in history class, so I looked it up.  Now, I question who gets to write these history books, and I can't say I know the true history, but it appears it was in response to actions taken earlier by the U.S.

 

Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote in his memoir The White House Years:

In 1945 Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives.[75]

 

You are correct , and I really don't know who is writing the history books but they left out who really started it , and how did they let them get all the way to pearl harbor, ? this in it self is another deception of propaganda ? at its finest,, that the people think dropping that bomb was justified,  no one looks up to see the truth any more, they believe what they are told and live with it ,

[hmbld]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

As far as false teachers - The Bible doesn't actually command us to "love" false teachers specifically-- but be aware of them, uncover the false teaching, reprove, rebuke and stay clear. In general we are to love our "enemies" but that doesn't mean being yoked with them or tolerating deception or falsehood.  It should go without saying that Christians pray even for False teachers that they would turn back to the Bible Scripture, & obey God and not mislead people away from the Truth to doctrines of demons etc..

2 Timothy 4:1-22 ESV 

I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 

 

 

If there are false teachers, maybe at this site, then they should either be banned to keep the content out, or as this verse states: "reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching".   If a teaching is wrong, and someone  patiently corrects, backing it up with scripture, to me seems to expose the truth.  When animosity is clearly shown without any correction done with kindness, well, the condescension is quite apparent.  Love your enemies?  Maybe we can start with loving those who do not completely agree with us?

[hmbld]

2 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

You are correct , and I really don't know who is writing the history books but they left out who really started it , and how did they let them get all the way to pearl harbor, ? this in it self is another deception of propaganda ? at its finest,, that the people think dropping that bomb was justified,  no one looks up to see the truth any more, they believe what they are told and live with it ,

This was very recent that I took the time to read some about this, I always thought the bombs were to shorten the war and save lives.  Maybe, 

[other one]

2 minutes ago, hmbld said:

This was very recent that I took the time to read some about this, I always thought the bombs were to shorten the war and save lives.  Maybe, 

they did shorten the war, however the war was winding down anyway.....     What we don't read was the carpet firebombing other pares was creating as much or more damage than the atomic bombs did, maybe without the radiation lingering....   but it was the USA that cleaned up the mess that was left behind.   Some people say that Japan's Emperor was trying to stop the war before we dropped the bombs, but I personally have not seen any real proof of that.

However if we had not agreed to let the Japanese keep thier Emperor, we would have had to kill every last one of them.

We also needed to test the bombs for effectiveness since there was two different ones and we needed to know which one to continue to produce...  so there was a lot going on in making that decision...  a lot seems to have been lost in the shuffle, but enough to be able to have several different thought processes and no real way to prove any of them that I have seen.

[hmbld]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

who would that be?

I guess I'm responding to the harshness in a lot of posts, and accusations of false teaching with no attempt to show how it is false.  If I am wrong about something, and you were to treat me harshly, how could that help to promote truth, or guide me to learn and correct my understanding?  Not meant for you in particular, someone has at the bottom of their posts something like nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care, or something like that.  That would probably speak of me most of the time, thinking I know something but failing to show people I love how much I care.