thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 hour ago, n2thelight said: Gonna just say this The whole purpose of the trib is deception.There is no way in the world satan can pretend to be Christ by posession....He(satan)is a supernatural being who will perform super natural acts in the sight of man..... The reality is satan walked amongst the garden of God,he was the covering cherum,no MAN has ever done that,so we know for a fact that Isaiah is refering to none other than satan himself.... The king of Tyre is satan,it can be no other Of course satan can pretend to be Christ by possession. Who says he can't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, n2thelight said: Are these angels in the below not called men? Genesis 19:1 "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground." Genesis 19:5 "And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them." Genesis 19:8 "Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof." Just because angels can appear like men, doesn't make them men. Just because those who called them men didn't understand they weren't men, doesn't make them men. The scripture tells us that we can at times entertain angels unawares. Hebrews 13:2Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. I'm sorry but to try to use this passage in Genesis to change what Paul said is kinda grasping at straws. As much as you want, you can't change what Paul said in the Greek in 2 Thess 2:3 - ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos. As much as you want, you can't change what the Greek word translated "man" ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, means. As much as you want, you can't make this word "man" ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, mean anything other than a human being to the exclusion of all other beings - including satan. As much as you want, you can't use other scriptures to make this Greek word, ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, mean anything other than it means - a human being to the exclusion of all other beings - including satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: Just because angels can appear like men, doesn't make them men. Just because those who called them men didn't understand they weren't men, doesn't make them men. The scripture tells us that we can at times entertain angels unawares. Hebrews 13:2Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. I'm sorry but to try to use this passage in Genesis to change what Paul said is kinda grasping at straws. As much as you want, you can't change what Paul said in the Greek in 2 Thess 2:3 - ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos. As much as you want, you can't change what the Greek word translated "man" ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, means. As much as you want, you can't make this word "man" ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, mean anything other than a human being to the exclusion of all other beings - including satan. As much as you want, you can't use other scriptures to make this Greek word, ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos, mean anything other than it means - a human being to the exclusion of all other beings - including satan. My point from Gen was the fact that angels can appear to be men,yet they are still angels,meaning why would satan need to posses anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, n2thelight said: My point from Gen was the fact that angels can appear to be men,yet they are still angels,meaning why would satan need to posses anyone? He would need to possess someone because he needs to counterfeit Christ who became man, and since he cannot become man, this is the closest he can come to it. The Messiah must be born of a woman. So to counterfeit Christ, he must use someone born of a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 minute ago, thereselittleflower said: He would need to possess someone because he needs to counterfeit Christ who became man, and since he cannot become man, this is the closest he can come to it. Yet Christ isn'nt coming back as a man,and satan shall come as most think Christ will........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 Just now, n2thelight said: Yet Christ isn'nt coming back as a man,and satan shall come as most think Christ will........... Wait a minute What do you mean Christ isn't coming back as a man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: Wait a minute What do you mean Christ isn't coming back as a man? I said that to mean satan will not need a body to posess,he already has one his own,and just like the angels appeared as men so shall he(satan)appear as one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 Just now, n2thelight said: I said that to mean satan will not need a body to posess,he already has one his own,and just like the angels appeared as men so shall he(satan)appear as one That does not answer my question. What do you mean Jesus will not come back as a man? What will he come back as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: That does not answer my question. What do you mean Jesus will not come back as a man? What will he come back as? Thought I just explained what I meant...He's coming back as Christ He won't need a body to posses,and neither will satan....Is that clear enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, n2thelight said: Thought I just explained what I meant...He's coming back as Christ He won't need a body to posses,and neither will satan....Is that clear enough? Are you saying Christ is not human? Are you saying Christ possessed a human body while on earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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