Eric Mwangi Posted February 2, 2016 Group: Newbie Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/02/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have always wanted to know, is taking alcohol a sin or being a drunkard is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 2, 2016 my question to the board monitors, is how can someone bypass the Welcome Forum and have no posts and go directly into the Seekers Forum? Is there a new rule that I don't know about? Just wondering. Thanks. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted February 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2016 44 minutes ago, Eric Mwangi said: I have always wanted to know, is taking alcohol a sin or being a drunkard is the problem Welcome Eric Eph. 5:18 …17So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, 19speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord;… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted February 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said: my question to the board monitors, is how can someone bypass the Welcome Forum and have no posts and go directly into the Seekers Forum? Is there a new rule that I don't know about? Just wondering. Thanks. Rusty I wonder at that myself sometimes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 2, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 2, 2016 Simple, Rusty, either yes, or no, or someone can post 5 times and delete each post so none appear ? 1 hour ago, Eric Mwangi said: I have always wanted to know, is taking alcohol a sin or being a drunkard is the problem Whatever is not of faith is sin, so usually yes to both. Also - not bringing what Ephesians 5:18 ((and many more)) shows to bring when it is the right time in meetings of ekklesia and when it is the right time before individuals, courts, judges, constables, and those in the world we are called and chosen to testify before with our lives. 56 minutes ago, angels4u said: Eph. 5:18 …17So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, 19speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord;… 1 hour ago, RustyAngeL said: my question to the board monitors, is how can someone bypass the Welcome Forum and have no posts and go directly into the Seekers Forum? Is there a new rule that I don't know about? Just wondering. Thanks. Rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appy Posted February 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2016 There is no scripture saying one can not drink alcohol, what scripture does say is do not drink so much that you are drunk and lose control of your senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted February 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2016 Paul told Timothy to take wine for his stomach (he had stomach problems.) Jesus turned water into wine, and it was the best wine they had ever tasted. Alcohol in and of itself is not a sinful. Its misuse, its abuse is sinful. Additionally, there were those who set themselves apart to God and touched no strong drink in the scriptures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted February 3, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted February 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: Additionally, there were those who set themselves apart to God and touched no strong drink in the scriptures To be complete, there is also a passage endorseing buy 'strong drink' with tithe money, so, it is always important, to check contexts carefully, a read every passage you can on a subject, before forming doctrines or conclusions, about a topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelf324 Posted February 3, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 210 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2016 The only way alcohol is a sin if your addicted to it. Anything that has power over you besides God is sin. KJV 1 6:12 Corinthians but I will not be brought under the power of any. You cause your neighbor to stumble for ex. You have a friend a recovering alcoholic and you drink alcohol in his sight thus tempting him. KJV Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. And finally if you end up being drunk by it. KJV Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2016 8 hours ago, manuelf324 said: The only way alcohol is a sin if your addicted to it. Anything that has power over you besides God is sin. Not just addiction (which is already way past what is unacceptable). Since Christians are required to be "filled with the Holy Spirit" (meaning to be fully under the control of the Holy Spirit) being "under the influence of alcohol" (2-3 drinks) already violates that requirement. BTW the word "wine " in the Bible can mean anything from simple unfermented grape juice all the way to "strong drink" (100 proof whisky with 50% alcohol is much stronger than any Bible wine). You will notice that when speaking of the Lord's Supper the Bible does not say "wine" but "the cup". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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