The Mark and the Image

[SINNERSAVED]

hey brother Jeff , this was a great powerful message to see this , I have never thought of this, and its a blessing to see ,what you are talking about here, and so it makes more sense now then ever before to understand the fall of man and how we are continually rebellion against God to be of our selves , this was awesome thank you and blessings

But the Pharisees and the lawyers [who were experts in the Mosaic Law] annulled and set aside God’s purpose for themselves, not having been baptized by John.

AMPC

But the Pharisees and the lawyers [of the Mosaic Law] annulled and rejected and brought to nothing God’s purpose concerning themselves, by [refusing and] not being baptized by him [John].

BRG

But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

CEB

But the Pharisees and legal experts rejected God’s will for themselves because they hadn’t been baptized by John.

CJB

but the P’rushim and the Torah-teachers, by not letting themselves be immersed by him, nullified for themselves God’s plan.

 

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5 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

the mark and the image might be some 'event' yet to come... and might be already here.  Only those with the seal of Yahweh are free from it, and won't necessarily 'know' what it is , per se, being simple minded, single eye upon Jesus, not attached to the world, not of the world while yet in the world.

It might be already powerful, in charge, controlling, in the lives of those who oppose Scripture here;  and in the towns  or cities or countries we who have the Son live in....  there is wickedness everywhere , and increasing daily.... and some TURNING TO GOD, starting to TRUST GOD instead of men....

 

that was touching and awesome, thank you brother, you are on a roll and the spirit is working a blessing through you for others

to see the truth and to be saved, that it is not when it comes but now while we are able to see and believe, for it is written let them that are just be just still ,and those that are or want to be unrighteous ,be unrighteous still says the lord

for we have probably already made a choice, today , or not , for what are people waiting for anyway ?

we cannot let another minute go by , for we do not know what tomorrow holds, this is the warning and words of Jesus , so we should be following and watching for we are here, and we are closer then ever before, if our time was up today and the lord called for us of this day that our faith is made, will it be to eternal life, or death and rejection of the lord, so many think they will have time, and in the future , but there faith lays in the balance right now,

so give us eyes to see and mouths to speak of the glorious grace and mercies given to us by God the father and the sacrifice on the cross, we are at the cross roads in life, and we are told to put the hand to the plow and not look back, do not wait,

we need to be doing this today ? blessings

[WilliamL]

3 hours ago, Last Daze said:

16 hours ago, WilliamL said:

You have provided no evidence that the the Trib takes place during the time of the Beast. And I don't believe there is any such evidence. Please show it if you have it.

I've explained it before.  Not willing to delve into here, maybe in a different thread.  It's not terribly important to this one.

Basing a topic from the get-go on a solid foundations is terribly important.

[WilliamL]

13 hours ago, Ezra said:

Please read Revelation chapters 6-18 and see if you can find "church" or "churches".

Then ask yourself whether those chapters correspond to the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation (including the Day of the Lord), and the reason why God's wrath is being poured out on the unbelieving and the ungodly.

Then ask yourself if the Church is appointed to wrath or to obtain salvation.

Please read Revelation chapters 6-18 and see if you can find "tribulation." You do, once --

Rev. 7:14 ...these are the ones who come out of the great tribulation... 15 “Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple."

-- and you find it no more afterwards. The trib has ended by this time, and the wrath has begun.

The Church is not appointed to the wrath, true; but no scripture says the Church is not appointed to the tribulation. You know this, but won't admit it. The foundation of your doctrine is built of a rationalization, not scripture. But you are unwilling to admit this, and continue to teach that which is contrary to the Word.

 

[Last Daze]

2 hours ago, simplejeff said:

Who cares ? Who can know ? TODAY, what difference does it make ?  

Obviously it doesn't make any difference to you.  However, whoever cares to know can know by reading about the seven plagues in Revelation.

If there is anyone out there who cares enough to look and see when in the progression of the seven plagues that it is first said that no one repents, you'll notice that it's not during the first four trumpets.

[simplejeff]

So,  you weren't asking ?  You think you knew ?   We will see..... 

((OH((edit in)) .  What difference does it make ?  So what if we 'know' ? ))

What happens to the people TODAY who refuse to repent, especially the ones teaching a false gospel  and serving demons TODAY ?   Should they repent ?    Can they repent ?   What if they already  agree to receive the mark?   what if they already  bow down to the image ? ((or are  completely willing to ))

TODAY is more important in every way I think, than some day yet to come.  But what if it's already here? 

Or, more to the point, everyone is /has been getting set up for it and many are already willing .

[Last Daze]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

So,  you weren't asking ?  You think you knew ?   We will see..... 

((OH((edit in)) .  What difference does it make ?  So what if we 'know' ? ))

What happens to the people TODAY who refuse to repent, especially the ones teaching a false gospel  and serving demons TODAY ?   Should they repent ?    Can they repent ?   What if they already  agree to receive the mark?   what if they already  bow down to the image ? ((or are  completely willing to ))

TODAY is more important in every way I think, than some day yet to come.  But what if it's already here? 

Or, more to the point, everyone is /has been getting set up for it and many are already willing .

I thought you didn't care.

[simplejeff]

I never said what you thought was right. ... ... ... .. ... or wrong.  

If it matters, you haven't shown that it matters , or why. 

Since it doesn't matter, I've shown, or tried to show, not only that it doesn't matter, 

but more importantly, what matters TODAY.  ((sin TODAY, deception TODAY, lack of repentance TODAY, being led astray TODAY,  being tempted to accept the MARK and the IMAGE TODAY)) ---

 as in Galatians , when Paul warned them TODAY not to continue being bewitched to the point of being carried away by the false gospel they were being tempted with.   He urgently WARNED THEM to not fall away from the TRUE GOSPEL they had received once...

LIKEWISE TODAY, many are being tempted to go astray after false gospel/ teachings / doctrines TODAY ,

people who MAY NOT YET HAVE FALLEN FOR IT....  ((yet while many may already have chosen - it MAY BE TOO LATE))....

maybe ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE, it will be too late 

for SOME PEOPLE who can still REPENT TODAY if they are willing to, but if they don't , they MIGHT NEVER.

I don't care WHEN that future date, if it is future, occurs - whether for 1, or 7 billion, 

the DAY FOR SALVATION OF SOULS IS TODAY.

 

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26 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

I thought you didn't care.

oh I think Jeff cares , for sure , but the warnings and scripture to the people , are they listening, ? are they waiting ?

they are no being concern, and so today could be the deciding factor of the rest of your life, and yet it may not wait until tomorrow, so people need to be ready , be watching, and praying, for the evil is upon us, and its just a matter of time for it to ,surround, then what will people do , when it comes to a point of force then it may be too late, so all this time we have now, but no one using it to there advantage, satan wants no one to do nothing,

and does not want you to know , that you can be saved, and to know that there is no devil , no evil, , deception is here, wake up , wake up people , are we waiting to get a invitation, or when the roof falls in,

if we are not making our selves ready now then I cannot say what will happen later, for what we prepare now , is all in the following of the Holy one,

be called out , know God, study the word, be ready , be ready

[WilliamL]

2 hours ago, simplejeff said:

What happens to the people TODAY who refuse to repent, especially the ones teaching a false gospel  and serving demons TODAY ?   Should they repent ?    Can they repent ?   What if they already  agree to receive the mark?   what if they already  bow down to the image ? ((or are  completely willing to ))

Whooa, you're getting downright Calvinistic there, bro'!