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So there are a a lot of people on boards who don't believe in rapture. Well I'm opened minded. If rapture don't exist then we have a problem with these verses. 

1Thess 4:17 - Matt 24:41 - Luke 17:34 35 36

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No problem at all until they were twisted to mean a rapture after a woman's dream in 1832.

Oh,  there's a lot of twisting going on - always has been.   That one is simple .

Trust God no matter what.  What happens to you if you start expecting to be 'raptured ? '?((not good from what happens to others))

Remember the ekklesia got in trouble in the NT thinking a 'rapture' had occurred ...  Paul made it clear to them NOT TO WORRY, WHEN JESUS RETURNS, EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT ! All over the world.

So EAGERLY SEEK JESUS, TODAY.  and START DOING WHAT HE SAYS IN SCRIPTURE, TODAY.  otherwise, you will be in trouble with everyone else who doesn't DO what HE SAYS to DO actively and whole-heartedly.. every day... TODAY.

7 minutes ago, tigger398 said:

So there are a a lot of people on boards don't believe in rapture. Well I'm opened minded. If rapture don't exist then we have a problem with these verses. 

1Thess 4:17 - Matt 24:41 - Luke 17:34 35 36

 

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Ok.  So what do the verses mean then, Jeff?????

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2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

So there are a a lot of people on boards don't believe in rapture. Well I'm opened minded. If rapture don't exist then we have a problem with these verses. 

1Thess 4:17 - Matt 24:41 - Luke 17:34 35 36

Why do we have a problem with these verses?

 

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1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

No problem at all until they were twisted to mean a rapture after a woman's dream in 1832.

Oh,  there's a lot of twisting going on - always has been.   That one is simple .

Trust God no matter what.  What happens to you if you start expecting to be 'raptured ? '?((not good from what happens to others))

Remember the ekklesia got in trouble in the NT thinking a 'rapture' had occurred ...  Paul made it clear to them NOT TO WORRY, WHEN JESUS RETURNS, EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT ! All over the world.

So EAGERLY SEEK JESUS, TODAY.  and START DOING WHAT HE SAYS IN SCRIPTURE, TODAY.  otherwise, you will be in trouble with everyone else who doesn't DO what HE SAYS to DO actively and whole-heartedly.. every day... TODAY.

 

I have to agree with you 100% here Jeff.

:D

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(co-worker at shop typing:) SOMEBODY GET THE SMELLING SALTS !!!!! :exclaimation: JEFF FAINTED !!!!  

13 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said:

I have to agree with you 100% here Jeff.

 

 

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1 minute ago, simplejeff said:

(co-worker at shop typing:) SOMEBODY GET THE SMELLING SALTS !!!!! :exclaimation: JEFF FAINTED !!!!  

 

RFLOL!

 

 

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6 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

(co-worker at shop typing:) SOMEBODY GET THE SMELLING SALTS !!!!! :exclaimation: JEFF FAINTED !!!!  

 

:laugh:

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2 hours ago, simplejeff said:

No problem at all until they were twisted to mean a rapture after a woman's dream in 1832.

Oh,  there's a lot of twisting going on - always has been.   That one is simple .

Trust God no matter what.  What happens to you if you start expecting to be 'raptured ? '?((not good from what happens to others))

Remember the ekklesia got in trouble in the NT thinking a 'rapture' had occurred ...  Paul made it clear to them NOT TO WORRY, WHEN JESUS RETURNS, EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT ! All over the world.

So EAGERLY SEEK JESUS, TODAY.  and START DOING WHAT HE SAYS IN SCRIPTURE, TODAY.  otherwise, you will be in trouble with everyone else who doesn't DO what HE SAYS to DO actively and whole-heartedly.. every day... TODAY.

 

Hi Jeff,

Looks like you've been reading the commentary or listening to others.  I'd beware of listening to the unbelief of others, and allowing them to talk you out of exercising your faith in the promises in His Word.  I'd be curious to see how you would interpret scriptures.  Care to take a shot at it?

Matthew 24:30-31 - Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Luke 21:34-36 - “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 - Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1 Thessalonians 1:9b-10 - They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, 10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 - For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

Revelation 3:10 - Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

 

 

Cheers

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