House of Israel House of Judah

[JohnD]

Hebrews 10:15-17 (AV)

15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

 

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Jeremiah 31:31–34 (AV)

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

 

 

[JohnD]

Ephesians 2 (AV)

1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

[Reinitin]

 I need to study more before I comment on this one.

[JohnD]

You will find that those who refuse to isolate spirit Israel from physical Israel overwhelmingly isolate Jew and Gentile in the faith despite what Galatians 3:28 clearly says.

[Guest]

On ‎2‎/‎29‎/‎2016 at 4:50 AM, JohnD said:

You will find that those who refuse to isolate spirit Israel from physical Israel overwhelmingly isolate Jew and Gentile in the faith despite what Galatians 3:28 clearly says.

Another way of putting it, is a refusal to distinguish between the seed of the first covenant, from the seed of the second covenant.

The kingdom of this world and this life

Ge 15:18  In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
 

The kingdom of the next world and the next life

Ge 17:4  As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. {many…: Heb. multitude of nations }
Ge 17:5  Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

29  And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 

[JohnD]

Amen.

[JohnD]

These distinctions have to be made otherwise replacement theology would be true (and it's not).

The physical Jew is the elect / chosen of this world.

The spirit Jew is the elect chosen of the heaven-earth to come.

 

[Gargamel Bojangles]

I dont follow Zionist doctrine as Israel rejected the covenant of Christ. You dont see anywhere in the New Testament about Israel specifically  being Gods chosen people

[Ezra]

35 minutes ago, Gargamel Bojangles said:

I dont follow Zionist doctrine as Israel rejected the covenant of Christ. You dont see anywhere in the New Testament about Israel specifically  being Gods chosen people

Please read and study Romans 9 through 11.  And please note (Acts 1:6,7):

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Also, Zionist Israel is NOT the kingdom of Israel, redeemed and restored under Christ. But they are located in a portion of the Promised Land (which will be expanded by about 10 times its current size).

[Qnts2]

25 minutes ago, Gargamel Bojangles said:

I dont follow Zionist doctrine as Israel rejected the covenant of Christ. You dont see anywhere in the New Testament about Israel specifically  being Gods chosen people

You don't have to follow Zionist doctrine but to me your reasoning is very strange. Some of the children of Israel accept the New Covenant. Just as some of every group of people have accepted the New Covenant.