Water was not created

[John1:18]

It clearly states in Geneses 1:2   that in the beginning the spirit of God HOVERED over water not CREATED water to hover over ………….

And saint Peter tells us the " GOD"    THE WORD made all things from water and out of water and then flooded it with water……

[John1:18]

I'm not seeking controversy.........im  point out the WRITTEN TRUTH as saint Peter tells us 2 Peter 3:5  and MOSES tells us in Genesis 1:2

this is the truth and  is the difference between what the Holy Bible says how God created the cosmos and how science says everything came from a black hole and nothing

[missmuffet]

6 minutes ago, John1:18 said:

I'm not seeking controversy.........im  point out the WRITTEN TRUTH as saint Peter tells us 2 Peter 3:5  and MOSES tells us in Genesis 1:2

this is the truth and  is the difference between what the Holy Bible says how God created the cosmos and how science says everything came from a black hole and nothing

You can believe what you want to believe. God gave us free will. Life if full of choices but what you are proclaiming is not Biblical.

[Jayne]

6 minutes ago, John1:18 said:

I'm not seeking controversy.........im  point out the WRITTEN TRUTH as saint Peter tells us 2 Peter 3:5  and MOSES tells us in Genesis 1:2

this is the truth and  is the difference between what the Holy Bible says how God created the cosmos and how science says everything came from a black hole and nothing

I was a science teacher for many years and never have I ever seen a resource or claim that the earth was created from a black hole or nothing.

When Peter said that " and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water", he wasn't giving a creation account.

He was in the middle of a discourse of saying that people had forgotten that God created everything [separating the waters and the earth during creation week] and then destroyed what he chose to and he is going to do it again, but this time with fire.  Sin will NOT go unpunished.

Genesis 1:2 does not say "in the beginning".  Genesis 1:1 says that.

And by-the-by, Islam teaches that God created things out of water, not the Bible.  Specifically animals. 

 

[MorningGlory]

15 minutes ago, John1:18 said:

I'm not seeking controversy.........im  point out the WRITTEN TRUTH as saint Peter tells us 2 Peter 3:5  and MOSES tells us in Genesis 1:2

this is the truth and  is the difference between what the Holy Bible says how God created the cosmos and how science says everything came from a black hole and nothing

Water is part of everything and the Bible clearly states that God created EVERYTHING in John 1.

[angels4u]

Job 38:

Then the Lord qanswered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

2  “Who is this that rdarkens counsel by words swithout knowledge?

3  tDress for action1 like a man;

I will question you, and you make it known to me.

4  “Where were you when I ulaid the foundation of the earth?

Tell me, if you have understanding.

5  Who determined its measurements—surely you know!

Or who stretched the line upon it?

6  On what were its bases sunk,

or who laid its cornerstone,

7  when the morning stars vsang together

and all wthe sons of God xshouted for joy?

8  “Or who yshut in the sea with doors

when it burst out from the womb,

9  when I made clouds its garment

and zthick darkness its swaddling band,

10  and prescribed alimits for it

and set bars and doors,

11  and said, ‘Thus far shall you come, and no farther,

and here shall your bproud waves be stayed’?

12  “Have you ccommanded the morning since your days began,

and caused the dawn to know its place,

13  that it might take hold of dthe skirts of the earth,

and the wicked be eshaken out of it?

14  It is changed like clay under the seal,

and its features stand out like a garment.

15  From the wicked their flight is withheld,

and gtheir uplifted arm is broken.

16  “Have you hentered into the springs of the sea,

or walked in the recesses of the deep?

17  Have ithe gates of death been revealed to you,

or have you seen the gates of jdeep darkness?

18  Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?

Declare, if you know all this.

19  “Where is the way to the dwelling of light,

and where is the place of darkness,

20  that you may take it to its territory

and that you may discern kthe paths to its home?

21  You know, for lyou were born then,

and the number of your days is great!

22  “Have you entered mthe storehouses of the snow,

or have you seen mthe storehouses of the hail,

23  which I have reserved nfor the time of trouble,

nfor the day of battle and war?

24  What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,

or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?

25  “Who has cleft a channel for the torrents of rain

and oa way for the thunderbolt,

26  to bring rain on pa land where no man is,

on qthe desert in which there is no man,

27  to satisfy the waste and desolate land,

and to make the ground sprout with rgrass?

28  “Has sthe rain a father,

or who has begotten the drops of dew?

29  From whose womb did tthe ice come forth,

and who has given birth to tthe frost of heaven?

30  The waters become hard like stone,

and the face of the deep is ufrozen.

31  “Can you bind the chains of vthe Pleiades

or loose the cords of vOrion?

32  Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth2 in their season,

or can you guide vthe Bear with its children?

33  Do you know wthe ordinances of the heavens?

Can you establish their rule on the earth?

34  “Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,

that xa flood of waters may cover you?

35  Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go

and say to you, ‘Here we are’?

36  Who has yput wisdom in zthe inward parts3

or given understanding to the mind?4

37  Who can number the clouds by wisdom?

Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,

38  when the dust runs into a mass

and athe clods stick fast together?

39  “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,

or bsatisfy the appetite of the young lions,

40  when they crouch in their cdens

or lie in wait din their thicket?

41  Who provides for ethe raven its prey,

when its young ones cry to God for help,

and wander about for lack of food?

[MorningGlory]

7 hours ago, John1:18 said:

2Peter3:5But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water,.....
Genesis 1:2Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Therefore .... I conclude ....water has always existed . No place is it written God created water. It was a shore less/ border less floor. Like an infinite ocean under GOD
"  GOD " who has now revealed Himself in Jesus ...in the beginning our God ....The Holy Spirit .... The WORD....
hovered over water " 
By his power and word He created all things from water . 
This infinite mass explains why modern science wants to predict black holes. 

Of course man shall find traces of water on the planets  rock is made from compressed water . Something science claims cannot be done .... But the stars and moons and planets and infinite cosmos was created by God out of water . 

The one fact that you can't get around is that nothing existed BEFORE God spoke it into being.  Therefore He created water along with everything else. 

[Ezra]

52 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

The one fact that you can't get around is that nothing existed BEFORE God spoke it into being.  Therefore He created water along with everything else. 

Absolutely.  Some stumble over the simplicity of creation for no good reason.

1. The earth had no external features -- without form and void, but it was simply a globe covered with a mantle of water -- at the time God began creating, and the Holy Spirit was hovering over the waters.

2. The firmament -- what we call the sky (but called "Heaven" in v.8) -- had water above it (probably as vapor) and also below it (probably as clouds).

3. All the water which was on the earth and below the firmament was gathered together as "Seas" and then the dry land appeared.

4. When we connect all the continents together, we see one land mass.  That was the dry land and it was called "Earth".

5. Until the Flood, there was no rain, but a mist watered the vegetation.  There were also rivers, and as we know the Garden of Eden was watered by one river with four tributaries.

6. Until the Fall, every living creature was a herbivore, but after the Fall carnivores came into existence.

[enoob57]

yeah we still have salad eaters here amongst us  

[HAZARD]

When did God create angels, including Lucifer?

Ezek. 28:15, Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

All Gods angels, including Lucifer were there when God laid the foundations of the Earth;

Job. 48: -7, Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast  understanding.
    5, Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    6, Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened ? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
    7, When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? 

Lucifer, now Satan was a fallen creature when he came into Adams garden and tempted them, Eve and Adam. When and why did he fall? Was it before Gen. 1:1, of after Gen. 1:1 sometime?