HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 20 minutes ago, TehMill said: What He says is some of you they will put to death...it is not easy to be a Christian in China...we are saved from God's wrath, we are not saved from tribulation/persecution The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation of those days....Jesus said that. No, Jesus never said the rapture will occur after the Tribulation. Followers of Christ have been put to death ever since Jesus died and returned to Heaven, starting with the apostles and many of His followers, and its continued to this day. The very purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from all the dead, those who have been killed since Christ died, and take all the saints who are alive when He returns and meets them in the air, out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 26 minutes ago, TehMill said: What He says is some of you they will put to death...it is not easy to be a Christian in China...we are saved from God's wrath, we are not saved from tribulation/persecution The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation of those days....Jesus said that. No, Jesus never said the rapture will occur after the Tribulation. Followers of Christ have been put to death ever since Jesus died and returned to Heaven, starting with the apostles and many of His followers, and its continued to this day. The very purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from all the dead, those who have been killed since Christ died, and take all the saints who are alive when He returns and meets them in the air, out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 No, Jesus never said the rapture will occur after the Tribulation. Followers of Christ have been put to death ever since Jesus died and returned to Heaven, starting with the apostles and many of His followers, and its continued to this day. The very purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from all the dead, those who have been killed since Christ died, and take all the saints who are alive when He returns and meets them in the air, out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 30 minutes ago, TehMill said: What He says is some of you they will put to death...it is not easy to be a Christian in China...we are saved from God's wrath, we are not saved from tribulation/persecution The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation of those days....Jesus said that. No, Jesus never said the rapture will occur after the Tribulation. Followers of Christ have been put to death ever since Jesus died and returned to Heaven, starting with the apostles and many of His followers, and its continued to this day. The very purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from all the dead, those who have been killed since Christ died, and take all the saints who are alive when He returns and meets them in the air, out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMill Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 281 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 206 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 "After the tribulation of those days....they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory" There are not multiple comings of the Lord in the clouds...it is 2. Thess. 2. ...haves to go by what He says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TehMill said: "After the tribulation of those days....they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory" There are not multiple comings of the Lord in the clouds...it is 2. Thess. 2. ...haves to go by what He says If you read the Scriptures carefully, you will see that Jesus comes down to rapture the saints. This is not His second coming, He does not come directly to the Earth, He meets the saints in the clouds and takes them to Heaven. Then, after the tribulation, He returns with them directly to the Earth, with great power and glory, that is, Jesus, His saints and the armies of Heaven to put down all rebellion and He also kills the antichrist. He then begins His millennial rule. Edited July 31, 2016 by HAZARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 The Rapture of the church should never be confused with the second coming or second advent of Christ, for He does not come to the earth at that time. The Rapture is a distinct coming in itself, not to the Earth, but in the air where Christ meets the saints and then takes them back to Heaven to present them blameless before God the Father, John 14:1-3; 1 Thess. 3:13; 4:16, 17. The Rapture takes place several years before the literal advent of Christ to the Earth, for they, the saints come back with Him at that time. The saints are in Heaven before God, and not in the air, from the time of the Rapture to their coming again with Christ to reign as kings and priests, Jude 14; Rev. 19:14; Zech. 14:5. At the Rapture, the Lord comes from Heaven as far as the air, or Earthly Heavens and the saints will be caught up to meet Him in the air. At the second coming, the saints are not raptured, and neither is Christ, but both will come back to the Earth together. The rapture takes place before the Tribulation, whereas the second Advent takes place after the Tribulation. The Rapture could occur at any time, whereas the second Advent cannot occur until after the tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMill Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 281 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 206 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 ...if that is what you want to believe...I leave you to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMill Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 281 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 206 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 13 June 2016 at 9:20 AM, OakWood said: This is the bible order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMill Posted July 31, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 281 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 206 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 14 June 2016 at 2:26 AM, OakWood said: God isn't punishing anyone, Satan is? So you actually agree with me then that the Tribulation is not the wrath of God! That contradicts your last post when you said that they were the same thing. Please explain this to me, why did you just contradict yourself? And you didn't finish the video - why not? Are you so caught up in your false pre-Trib doctrine that you're afraid want to let go of it? People get tangled up because they will not accept what the scripture says Jesus said "after the tribulation of those days....they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory" There are not multiple comings of Christ in the clouds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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