Should Jews care about Christianity?

[OldSchool2]

from First Things:

"I argued last month that Pope Francis ought to see the reconversion of Europe as his most important task. Surely he agrees that European Christianity is in deep trouble. Surely he does not believe that Christianity no longer matters to Europe, or can no longer be compelling to Europeans. How can he ignore a catastrophe on his doorstep?

"Some people asked in response: Why should a Jew care whether Europe is Christian? Rod Dreher in the American Conservative: 'I am grateful for Gelernter’s encouragement, but would love to know why it matters so much to a believing Jew that Europe should be re-Christianized.' Good question, but one that is easy for me to answer. The key goes far beyond the opinions of one Jewish writer in Connecticut. It touches the heart of a fundamental change in relations between Judaism and Christianity...."

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/03/why-should-a-jew-care-whether-christianity-lives-or-dies

"Jews must acknowledge this truth: Christianity is a dialect of Judaism..."

[FresnoJoe]

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:22

It comes down to this: Christianity is the Jews’ gift to mankind; the most important gift mankind has ever received.

That so many modern leftists would say to themselves, “All the more reason to hate the Jews,” merely underlines the point.

The natural enemy of the Jew is the natural enemy of the Christian, too—the conscience-hater,

the man who wants no witnesses. http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/03/why-should-a-jew-care-whether-christianity-lives-or-dies

[Guest]

"For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.…"(Galatians 3:27-29) Berean Study Bible 

God has created a new race of new creatures, born of the last Adam, destined for His kingdom, devoid of the lines of this world that divide.The Last Adam (Christ) has birthed a new race! As the first Adam was the natural father of the human race, so Christ, the last Adam, is the progenitor of a new humanity, a spiritual race. "So also it is written, 'The first man, Adam, became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit" (1 Corinthians 15:45). Berean Study Bible

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

"Jews must acknowledge this truth: Christianity is a dialect of Judaism..."

What he seems to be saying is that Christianity is essentially Hebrew, since Christ Himself was Hebrew (as were the apostles). Nothing wrong with that. The Church began with Jews in Jerusalem but ultimately the Church is redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body.  What Jews must come to terms with is that they must repent and be converted and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Which would mean the end of Judaism.

[woundeddog]

I think that just from a pragmatic view point a traditional Jew should want a Christian Europe rather than an Islamic Europe--- for the most part Christians are done killing Jews ( which was wrong in the first place and not called for by God) whereas the Muslims are still aggressively waging and plotting war against the Jews.

 

And many Evangelical Christians feel a kinship and support Israel and the Jewish faith

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[OldSchool2]

10 hours ago, Ezra said:

...  What Jews must come to terms with is that they must repent and be converted and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Which would mean the end of Judaism.

The end, or the fulfillment of Judaism as per Matthew 5:17?

[Qnts2]

2 hours ago, OldSchool2 said:

The end, or the fulfillment of Judaism as per Matthew 5:17?

Judaism simply means the religion of the Jewish people. From a Jewish believer view point, Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, prophesied in the OT to the Jewish people first. The religion of the Jewish people, Judaism, should include Jesus as the promised Messiah, therefore, belief in Jesus is Judaism (Messianic Judaism). A belief which should be the belief of the Jewish people.

[Ezra]

5 hours ago, Qnts2 said:

Judaism simply means the religion of the Jewish people.

It's more than that. It means "the religion of the Jewish people WITHOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST". Thus an empty shell.

[Ezra]

7 hours ago, OldSchool2 said:

The end, or the fulfillment of Judaism as per Matthew 5:17?

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

And how did Christ fulfil the Law and the Prophets?

1. All Messianic prophecies for His first coming were fulfilled perfectly (as they will for His second coming)

2. Jesus was the only man who kept the Law perfectly - He had no sin and He did no sin.

3. Jesus became the Lamb of God, and brought an end to the sacrificial system, including the Temple.

4. Christ was made a Curse and Sin for us by hanging on the tree.

5. Christ said "It is finished" on the Cross, thus fulfilling the Law and the Prophets.

6. Christ rose from the dead, thus making Him both Lord and Christ.

These are the facts which must be wholeheartedly accepted by every Jew.

[Qnts2]

2 hours ago, Ezra said:

It's more than that. It means "the religion of the Jewish people WITHOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST". Thus an empty shell.

I would not call the Mosaic covenant an empty shell since it was given by God. That to me demeans God. Nothing God did was an empty shell.

Since Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people, and Judaism includes the promise of the Messiah, along with prophesies about the Jewish people coming to Jesus, Judaism as the religion of the Jewish people, does and will include Jesus.