JessicaD Posted July 27, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 27, 2016 So today I was speaking with my pastor on some stuggles going on in my life. He told me that everyone who is saved will inherit the Kingdom of God but wont have as many blessing when they are sinning. I understand we are all sinners and I definitely have my own sins I battle with everyday. In scripture it states in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. So when someone does these things list above in scripture and does not repent fully will they or will they not inherit the Kingdom? Does God look at sin as equal? Is having a bad attitude equal to me being sexually immoral? Just trying to get a clear meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Your Pastor is correct. We are saved by what we believe, not how we behave. We show our gratitude to Christ for what He did for us on the Cross by how we behave. When we sin, we fall out of receiving all the blessings that GOD has promised His Own, but we do not fall out of Grace. Once we confess our sin, we again begin to receive those blessings that GOD has promised us. That is why we are told in Scripture that "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9 (ESV) Once we are sincerely saved, there is nothing we or anyone else can do to take that salvation away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted July 27, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I believe all sins are equal to God. But God forgives all sin also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted July 27, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Amen. When we are truly saved, born again we will do things differently. Our life will be changed. I have seen Christians who believe because they live under grace it's OK to do whatever they choose. That is so wrong. Paul said it himself. Just because we live under the Grace of Jesus God forbid that we live outside of His Will. You will only find peace when you fully commit to Him Once totally surrendered you will find there is not such a struggle with the flesh because the Holy Spirit lives in you. Get in His Word, pray and walk in the promises He has given you. Blessings, RustyAngeL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 27, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 27, 2016 13 hours ago, JessicaD said: So today I was speaking with my pastor on some stuggles going on in my life. He told me that everyone who is saved will inherit the Kingdom of God but wont have as many blessing when they are sinning. I understand we are all sinners and I definitely have my own sins I battle with everyday. In scripture it states in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. So when someone does these things list above in scripture and does not repent fully will they or will they not inherit the Kingdom? Does God look at sin as equal? Is having a bad attitude equal to me being sexually immoral? Just trying to get a clear meaning? Yes, everyone who is truly saved and is a born again believer will inherit the Kingdom of God. Each and everyone of us are sinners even though we are believers. We are human and we are not perfect. We will not be perfect until we get to heaven. But as born again believers we do our best to walk a path that God wants us to walk. The Holy Spirit guides our steps. We do our best to be obedient to God. The Holy Bible tells us how we should live. The only unforgiven sin is unbelief in Jesus Christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallshoulders Posted July 27, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 42 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 32 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/27/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/14/1983 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) I actually don't think anyone can know who will inherit the kingdom. All sin is equal, we grade it but it all separates us from God and whether we are separated a little or a lot, we are still separated. All sin is forgivable by God (apart from the unforgivable sin which is grieving the Holy Spirit). I believe this is an easy sin to commit without even realising (scary). The Bible says we will be surprised at who is saved and who is not...and that's key. Christians talk about when they 'were' saved, the Bible talks about those who 'will be' saved... meaning, it hasn't happened yet...Paul talks about the importance of how we finish the race, not the importance of starting the race...and the Bible talks about the path to righteousness being narrow and the road to hell being wide, if saying the 'sinners prayer' was enough to get a ticket into heaven don't you think the road to heaven would be described as easy? We will see on the day of judgement. We can only seek our own path with God, don't be swayed by how we see others walking...plus salvation is more than a ticket into heaven...Are you seeking God, or are you seeking heaven? God wants a relationship with you, he wants you to want him... Edited July 27, 2016 by Smallshoulders Spelling, auto correct mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoghead Posted July 29, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 54 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2016 I believe God is a loving God; and when you love others, you do not seek to coerce them with threats. So I think God saves everyone. Indeed, that is how God serves as the ground for the meaning of life. All too often, we are confronted with our seeming meaninglessness. What meaning, what purpose does our life have if it is all going to go up in smoke soon enough anyway? The past fades. That is the evil of evil. But it is very different if God enters the picture. God, I believe, enjoys a direct, empathic experience with any and al creaturely feelings. Hence, all our experiences are felt by God and preserved in God's eternal memory, where they are enjoyed forever. Hence, our lives have eternal significance. Since you cannot separate the experience from the experiencing ego, we also live on in God. Just how is hard to say. I posit that once we are free of teh struggle for survival here, we can lower our defenses and boundaries. it is no longer us against them. As such, we are freer to enter into an empathic encounter with others, share in their feelings. This isn't cheap grace or an easy way out. Once we move into this greater harmony with others, we will l experience the pain and suffering we have perhaps inflicted on them and vice versa. And that's a pretty tough experience to go through. So, while I don't believe in Hell and damnation, I don't believe Heaven is exactly a piece of cake either. Too often, the "saved" have been identified as those who subscribe to certain doctrines. Faith has collapsed into intellectual ascent to dogma. It is more important to God what you believe than how you live. However, I think God is far more interested in how you live than in your religious beliefs. I sometimes think of God as analogous to a physician. Now a truly great physician does not refuse to serve or save patients, based on what he considers appropriate religious beliefs. Who would even begin to trust a doctor who said he would try and save only Methodists or Catholics or Buddhists, everyone else out of the ER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
post Posted August 7, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 615 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/03/1976 Share Posted August 7, 2016 On 7/29/2016 at 7:33 PM, hoghead said: I think God is far more interested in how you live than in your religious beliefs. good behavior + bad theology is the road to hell. if good behavior causes God to overlook wrong belief, then every reasonably non-criminal adherent of every pagan religion in the world would be saved. every atheist who acts somewhat morally would be saved. Christianity, as described in the Bible, is the most cerebral system of theology in the history of the earth. it is about belief, and about discerning false doctrine and the will of God through the renewing of your mind by the Spirit. when you start trading these things for emotionalism and moral behavior, you've exchanged Christianity for mere paganism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted August 7, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,806 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 7, 2016 Blessings Jessica I think you are really asking about consequence of "sin" for the Saved,after physical death.....let me try to give you a brief explanation......yes,we are Saved by the Grace of God,yes that Grace is what gives you the guarantee Seal of Redemption on your Spirit,a Saved Person inherits Gods Kingdom There are ramifications for sin,better we suffer those consequences here & now than to die a second death & not go on to Everlasting Life with the Lord & the Word says: People often wonder why they have a lot on their plates after they are Born Again,perhaps it is allowed by God ,not as "punishment" but merely consequences of our own doing...... There are 2 different "judgements" after physical death.one for the unSaved who will go to the Throne Judgement & Stand before God,these will not go to Paradise,they are going to hell..........then there is the Judgement Seat of Christ,the Saved will stand before Christ to give account for every word ever spoken(it is really a heart matter)...it seems there are different level in hell & different levels of Heaven.....why else would God keep account oif every word? WE can't really be sure how it works but we are sure that God keep a record so I think it is safe to say we should be mindful of our words(our heart really) Quote …35The good man brings good things out of his good store of treasure, and the evil man brings evil things out of his evil store of treasure. 36But I tell you that men will give an account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned. Matt 12:36 What is the store of treaure?It is your heart,your intent WE can pray for help with this.... Quote King James VersionLet the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer. Psalm 19:14 You asked about someone who continues to do things(sin),,,,,Sister,if the heart is not convicted then that is a sure sign that something is very wrong.....Faith comes by hearing the Word of God,God has to be the center of our lives,our driver,our pilot.....when we are still in the drivers seat we will keep taking those old familiar roads.Jesus will take you on a new journey ,down new roads but He cannot do that until we let Him take the wheel I hope that has helped give you a clearer picture.....to God be the Glory With love-in Christ,Kwik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted August 18, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 18, 2016 On 27/07/2016 at 0:46 AM, JessicaD said: So today I was speaking with my pastor on some stuggles going on in my life. He told me that everyone who is saved will inherit the Kingdom of God but wont have as many blessing when they are sinning. I understand we are all sinners and I definitely have my own sins I battle with everyday. In scripture it states in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. So when someone does these things list above in scripture and does not repent fully will they or will they not inherit the Kingdom? Does God look at sin as equal? Is having a bad attitude equal to me being sexually immoral? Just trying to get a clear meaning? Corinthians 6 vs 9-10 however do not speak of Christians, but those who have outwardly rejected Christ or who are "Christian" in name only. They claim to believe in Christ but do not walk in His footsteps. They do not believe in the bible and choose to follow man made rules over God. Yes God looks at sin as equal. Many of us would grade sin on a sliding scale but God does not. All sin leads unto death for the unrepentant. However we most remember that being saved makes us forgiven sinners, not perfect. If we could be perfect Christ would never have had to die for us. Remember that salvation is a FREE gift, not of works lest any man should boast 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. We are all going to slip up once in a while but we cannot lose our salvation 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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