Does all who are saved inherit the kindom of God?

[PatrolMan]

On 7/27/2016 at 0:45 PM, missmuffet said:

Yes, everyone who is truly saved and is a born again believer will inherit the Kingdom of God. Each and everyone of us are sinners even though we are believers. We are human and we are not perfect. We will not be perfect until we get to heaven. But as born again believers we do our best to walk a path that God wants us to walk. The Holy Spirit guides our steps. We do our best to be obedient to God. The Holy Bible tells us how we should live. The only unforgiven sin is unbelief in Jesus Christ.

Or blaspheme against the Holy Spirit or Ghost which ever you prefer.

[jeremiah1five]

On ‎7‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 9:46 PM, JessicaD said:

So today I was speaking with my pastor on some stuggles going on in my life.  He told me that everyone who is saved will inherit the Kingdom of God but wont have as many blessing when they are sinning. I understand we are all sinners and I definitely have my own sins I battle with everyday. In scripture it states in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men  nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

So when someone does these things list above in scripture and does not repent fully will they or will they not inherit the Kingdom?  

Does God look at sin as equal?

Is having a bad attitude equal to me being sexually immoral?  

 

Just trying to get a clear meaning?

Your pastor is in error. Either all sin of God's Elect are forgiven or they are not. Either Christ died for the Elect on that day at Calvary and atonement was made, or Christ did not died for the sin of the Elect? Any sin of the Elect not paid for by the Son would have kept Jesus in the tomb/grave. 

Another thing...the kingdom of God is Christ Himself. Christ is within the born-again Covenant believer. And the kingdom of God is Christ in you.

But WHO is the kingdom of God? The answer is Christ Himself.

Romans 14:17 (KJV)
¹⁷  For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
 

Father = Righteousness

Son = Peace

Joy = Holy Spirit.

Righteousness, peace, and joy are within the believer because the believer is possessed of Christ.

Lo! the kingdom does not come by observation for the kingdom of God is within you.

Right?

 

[Jostler]

I'd suggest someone truly interested in this topic do some real digging.  The Word provides more insight into this than you may currently know.  There are different degrees of engagement with the "kingdom" clearly portrayed and not all will engage the level of inheritance though they truly be saved by grace.  You must be born again to SEE the Kingdom.  We can call that level 1.  But the Bible also talks about  "entering" and "inheriting".  Levels 2 and 3.  Entry to those levels  of interaction with the Kingdom are based on faithfulness.  You'll find a group of threes  if you  begin to look, and they're interrelated.  Called, chosen and faithful is one.  Not all who are called, respond in ways that allow Him to choose them.  Not all who are chosen remain faithful to the end.  The greatest rewards are reserved for those who are chosen and faithful to that calling.

Some will be born again, preserved from the  fire and live in the eternal, sinless bliss of His restored creation, but will not be allowed to enter the New Jerusalem.  (See Revelation 22:14-15)

Hebrews 6 gives a list of FUNDAMENTAL concepts we must master as our foundation....from which  we begin growing to maturity.  Understanding "eternal judgement" is one of the fundamental concepts and it's one the modern, western church has largely failed to master.

 

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Heb 6:1 (NKJV)

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Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2

of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

6 FUNDAMENTAL doctrines which are indicated to be necessary before we can move on to maturity.  Can you name/describe the different baptisms?  Resurrection of the dead is a topic that garners more confusion and  bickering among us yet the  Bible  is pretty  clear on the subject.  It's fundamental   And eternal judgement is MUCH more varied, detailed and diverse than most  commonly understand.

[Guest]

On 1/19/2019 at 11:50 PM, Abdicate said:

Real children of God do not sin.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 

So if you cannot cease from sin, are you really saved?

Romans 3 (NASB)

21 But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

2 Peter 2:14-15
having eyes full of adultery, and who can’t cease from sin; enticing unsettled souls; having a heart trained in greed; children of cursing; forsaking the right way, they went astray, having followed the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of wrongdoing;

False Prophets and Teachers

2Pe 2:1  But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
2Pe 2:2  Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
2Pe 2:3  and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
2Pe 2:4  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
2Pe 2:5  and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6  and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;
2Pe 2:7  and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men
2Pe 2:8  (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds),
2Pe 2:9  then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,
2Pe 2:10  and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties,
2Pe 2:11  whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord.
2Pe 2:12  But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
2Pe 2:13  suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you,
2Pe 2:14  having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;
2Pe 2:15  forsaking the right way, they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
2Pe 2:16  but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.
2Pe 2:17  These are springs without water and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved.
2Pe 2:18  For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error,
2Pe 2:19  promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.
2Pe 2:20  For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
2Pe 2:21  For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
2Pe 2:22  It has happened to them according to the true proverb, "A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT," and, "A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire."

Text in Context

29 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

1 Peter 4:1-2
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

Stewards of God's Grace

1Pe 4:1  Therefore, since Christ has suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same purpose, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
1Pe 4:2  so as to live the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
1Pe 4:3  For the time already past is sufficient for you to have carried out the desire of the Gentiles, having pursued a course of sensuality, lusts, drunkenness, carousing, drinking parties and abominable idolatries.
1Pe 4:4  In all this, they are surprised that you do not run with them into the same excesses of dissipation, and they malign you;
1Pe 4:5  but they will give account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
1Pe 4:6  For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God.
1Pe 4:7  The end of all things is near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer.
1Pe 4:8  Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.
1Pe 4:9  Be hospitable to one another without complaint.
1Pe 4:10  As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
1Pe 4:11  Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

Peter 4:1-2 is speaking about Jesus if you read the whole passage and don't take things out of context.  If a person says they are without sin and no longer sin, stay away from them.  They are liars.

[Guest]

On 1/30/2019 at 8:43 PM, Abdicate said:

Quote the entire word of God to keep within context. It doesn't change the verses I gave, nor their meaning.

Of course it does.  You're taking scripture out of context to make a false point, imho.

[Guest]

On 2/2/2019 at 5:05 PM, Abdicate said:

So not true. And it is your opinion.

Walking in the Light

1 John 1:5  This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
1 John 1:6  If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
1 John 1:7  but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
1 John 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:9  If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

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[Guest]

On 2/2/2019 at 6:04 PM, PepperS said:

Is there a difference between inheriting the kingdom and inheriting the earth?

This is what God's word says regarding the imperishable (His Word) and the perishable (earth):

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Mark 16:20  And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them, and confirmed the word by the signs that followed.] [And they promptly reported all these instructions to Peter and his companions. And after that, Jesus Himself sent out through them from east to west the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation.]

1 Corinthians 9:25  Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

1 Corinthians 15:42  So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body;

1 Corinthians 15:50  Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

1 Corinthians 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1 Corinthians 15:53  For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15:54  But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory.

1 Peter 1:4  to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,

1 Peter 1:23  for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

1 Peter 3:4  but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.

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I hope this helps.

Edited February 4, 2019 by Saved.One.by.Grace

[Guest]

On 2/4/2019 at 4:46 AM, Abdicate said:

Nahum 1:3
Yahweh is slow to anger, and great in power, and will by no means leave the guilty unpunished. Yahweh has his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

So there's no guilty running around the Earth now?  Good to know.

Edited February 7, 2019 by Saved.One.by.Grace

[Guest]

On 2/5/2019 at 11:29 PM, Abdicate said:

Be flippant, but it means, watch your step. We all WILL be judged.

Revelation 22:14-15
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

It should have read "good to know" instead of "go to know", but I think you caught the gist of what I was saying anyhow.  I certainly did not mean for my response to come out as flippant.  I have a Dispensationalist perspective on end times.  It seems we are drifting far away from the OP.