ladypeartree Posted August 5, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 37 Topic Count: 539 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 32,719 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 23,372 Days Won: 220 Joined: 06/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1953 Share Posted August 5, 2016 A halal supermarket in a Paris suburb has been told by local authorities it must start selling alcohol and pork or else it will be shut down. Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store." The authority argues that all members of the local community are not being served properly if there are no alcohol or pork products in the Good Price store, which is run as a franchise and which last year replaced another small supermarket. “The mayor of Colombes, Nicole Goueta, went there herself and asked the owner to diversify the range of products by adding alcohol and non-halal meats,” the mayor’s chief of staff, Jérôme Besnard, told The Telegraph. He said locals, particularly older residents, had complained that they could no longer get the full range of products at Good Price, which replaced a regular supermarket, and had to travel some distance now to do their shopping. “We want a social mix. We don’t want any area that is only Muslim or any area where there are no Muslims,” Mr Besnard said, adding that the town’s reaction would have been the same had a kosher shop opened on that spot. The Colombes housing authority argues that the store breaches French republican principles by prioritising a certain group within society rather than catering to all categories. It has taken legal action to bring an end to the lease which would normally run until 2019. The case goes to court in October. Soulemane Yalcin, who runs the shop under franchise, said he was merely catering to the demands of his customers in this area of large public housing estates. “It’s business,” said Mr Yalcin. “I look around me and I target what I see. The lease states ‘general food store and related activities’ - but it all depends on how you interpret ‘related activities’,” he told Le Parisien newspaper. He has hired a lawyer to fight the housing authority’s bid to get him evicted. The row in Colombes came as another town - this time in the south of France - decided to take action to stop another perceived breach of republican principles . The mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau, near Marseille, is seeking to ban an event at a water park that is open only to burkini-clad women and children. The event organised by a local community group said the need for modest swimwear was because there would be male lifeguards on duty at the Speedwater Park venue. Burkinis are banned at municipal pools in France, as are women-only events, but private venues are in theory allowed to host them. But the mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau said he was outraged by this “provocation” and that he would use a bylaw to ban it on the grounds that it is likely to cause public disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladypeartree Posted August 5, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 37 Topic Count: 539 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 32,719 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 23,372 Days Won: 220 Joined: 06/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1953 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Makes a change from hearing that Christians are being sued for their beliefs such as bakers not wanting to make cakes for things that are offensive to them etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 On 05/08/2016 at 8:19 PM, Bluebird said: This is pretty standard for France. They flatly refuse to allow any religion special rights. They can't, for example, wear cross jewelry or the kind of Christian printed T-shirts we weal all the time here in the USA. That's probably got a lot to do with why islamic terrorists keep singling them out. Drives 'em nuts... They go too far the French in their 'laicete ' , but as a private individual, I wear a Cross all the time . If I was working for the 'Council ', or Government , I could not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walla299 Posted August 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,164 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1,727 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1961 Share Posted August 8, 2016 That's actually rather refreshing to see somewhere that they are trying to be "inclusive" for everyone. That would mean no one religion or group gets special status over anyone else. The Politically Correct folks here in the US could learn a thing or two, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 08/08/2016 at 4:14 AM, walla299 said: That's actually rather refreshing to see somewhere that they are trying to be "inclusive" for everyone. That would mean no one religion or group gets special status over anyone else. The Politically Correct folks here in the US could learn a thing or two, I think. On 06/08/2016 at 6:05 AM, Davida said: Islamic terrorists are attacking in France because the muslim population is grown enough that they feel embolden to attack. No , it's in part because the French have interfered among others(,U.S.) in destroying peaceful communities in the Middle East, to get access to oïl ,and sell their weapons to the other side ,the one they do not support at any given time . I know you would like to think that you are innocent ,and that All Moslems are terrorists , but they are not . They are often made, by greedy Westerners calling themselves Christians ,but hiding ones evil deeds behind your confessed religion , does not make them Good , no matter what is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thallasa Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 05/08/2016 at 9:16 AM, ladypeartree said: A halal supermarket in a Paris suburb has been told by local authorities it must start selling alcohol and pork or else it will be shut down. Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store." The authority argues that all members of the local community are not being served properly if there are no alcohol or pork products in the Good Price store, which is run as a franchise and which last year replaced another small supermarket. “The mayor of Colombes, Nicole Goueta, went there herself and asked the owner to diversify the range of products by adding alcohol and non-halal meats,” the mayor’s chief of staff, Jérôme Besnard, told The Telegraph. He said locals, particularly older residents, had complained that they could no longer get the full range of products at Good Price, which replaced a regular supermarket, and had to travel some distance now to do their shopping. “We want a social mix. We don’t want any area that is only Muslim or any area where there are no Muslims,” Mr Besnard said, adding that the town’s reaction would have been the same had a kosher shop opened on that spot. The Colombes housing authority argues that the store breaches French republican principles by prioritising a certain group within society rather than catering to all categories. It has taken legal action to bring an end to the lease which would normally run until 2019. The case goes to court in October. Soulemane Yalcin, who runs the shop under franchise, said he was merely catering to the demands of his customers in this area of large public housing estates. “It’s business,” said Mr Yalcin. “I look around me and I target what I see. The lease states ‘general food store and related activities’ - but it all depends on how you interpret ‘related activities’,” he told Le Parisien newspaper. He has hired a lawyer to fight the housing authority’s bid to get him evicted. The row in Colombes came as another town - this time in the south of France - decided to take action to stop another perceived breach of republican principles . The mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau, near Marseille, is seeking to ban an event at a water park that is open only to burkini-clad women and children. The event organised by a local community group said the need for modest swimwear was because there would be male lifeguards on duty at the Speedwater Park venue. Burkinis are banned at municipal pools in France, as are women-only events, but private venues are in theory allowed to host them. But the mayor of Pennes-Mirabeau said he was outraged by this “provocation” and that he would use a bylaw to ban it on the grounds that it is likely to cause public disorder. On the 'burkini thing ' ,it just shows how decadent the west has become ,when a woman covering up on a beach is considered to be creating 'public disorder ' . As for other aspects of social changes which Moslems press onto local communities ,like praying in the streets ,these are unacceptable ,totally . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walla299 Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,164 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1,727 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1961 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 9:21 AM, Thallasa said: No , it's in part because the French have interfered among others(,U.S.) in destroying peaceful communities in the Middle East, to get access to oïl ,and sell their weapons to the other side ,the one they do not support at any given time . I know you would like to think that you are innocent ,and that All Moslems are terrorists , but they are not . They are often made, by greedy Westerners calling themselves Christians ,but hiding ones evil deeds behind your confessed religion , does not make them Good , no matter what is . All Muslims may not be terrorists, but lately an awful lot of terrorists have been Muslims. Just sayin'. I learned a lot while I Saudi Arabia, and we're all fallen creatures. No one is innocent - that means everyone. Paul makes a good argument for that in Romans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,073 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,818 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 All Muslims are not active terrorists, but all Muslims are potential terrorists as the leaders of Islam decree. Just because a Muslim is not trying to cut your head off is no good reason to keep turning your back on him/her for if her Islamic leader says it's time to fight, they will all fight and cut your head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 15/02/2017 at 10:21 AM, Thallasa said: No , it's in part because the French have interfered among others(,U.S.) in destroying peaceful communities in the Middle East, to get access to oïl ,and sell their weapons to the other side ,the one they do not support at any given time . I know you would like to think that you are innocent ,and that All Moslems are terrorists , but they are not . They are often made, by greedy Westerners calling themselves Christians ,but hiding ones evil deeds behind your confessed religion , does not make them Good , no matter what is . Right on...you got it right on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretoeternity Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 480 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 18/02/2017 at 8:49 AM, other one said: All Muslims are not active terrorists, but all Muslims are potential terrorists as the leaders of Islam decree. Just because a Muslim is not trying to cut your head off is no good reason to keep turning your back on him/her for if her Islamic leader says it's time to fight, they will all fight and cut your head off. Who started wars in the middle east, and destablized and victimized peaceful Muslim countries, killing millions of their people with bombs, depleted uranium weapons and "shock and awe" terrible examples of "christian" attacks...Iraq comes to mind..prior to the total destruction of that country, all religions could function, including "christians"..now it is total chaos...the list includes Syria, Libya, Afganistan and on and on...what do you expect? Saudi Arabia which is an oppressive state has been given a free pass by the USA and western "allies" because of business interests of the past Presidents and government executives, has been allowed and encouraged to export terrorism, but that's okay as long as they provide oil and profits to the corrupt government officials ...hypocritical..you bet it is. You want to know where ISIS comes from, now you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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