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1st and 2nd Seal Opened? How can we know?


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5 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Did you see the Bible verses in the above post ? Those refer to the seal judgments.  Are you amillennial or preterist?

I prefer to limit things to the Bible, not the sky.

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8 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

I prefer to limit things to the Bible, not the sky.

But you are not seeing any of the Scriptures that I posted that are in Revelations. That is the Bible. It sounds like you definitely are limiting things in the Bible as well. You did not answer my question. Are you amillennial preterist?

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Just now, missmuffet said:

But you are not seeing any of the Scriptures that I posted that are in Revelations. That is the Bible. It sounds like you definitely are limiting things in the Bible as well. You did not answer my question. Are you amillennial preterist?

None of the verses you posted use the term "seal judgments."  There's a reason why.  Do you know what that reason is?

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Just now, Last Daze said:

None of the verses you posted use the term "seal judgments."  There's a reason why.  Do you know what that reason is?

Please share. :)

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2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Please share. :)

Because they aren't seal judgments.  They're seals.  The Bible only refers to them as "seals."

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15 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

Because they aren't seal judgments.  They're seals.  The Bible only refers to them as "seals."

Why are they not judgments?

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7 hours ago, Diaste said:

Have we seen the first two seals opened?

Sure, actually the first FIVE seals were opened and operational since the first century. See Matthew 24.

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

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3 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Why are they not judgments?

For the same reason they're not elephants.  They're just not.

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4 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

For the same reason they're not elephants.  They're just not.

That does not answer my question. I am not asking about elephants I am asking why are they not judgments.

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11 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Sure, actually the first FIVE seals were opened and operational since the first century. See Matthew 24.

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

No, none of the seals have been opened yet. I think the partial preterists believe that.

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