Mohammedism Versus The Living God Of Israel

[FresnoJoe]

From The Voice Of The Martyrs....

In Muslim nations today, speaking on a religious subject considered to be contrary to Islam can mean death. Ironically, Muslim worshipers face a death penalty themselves. The Bible teaches that the penalty for sin is spiritual death. Apart from Christ, everyone faces eternal death. Thankfully, however, Christ has paid the death penalty for all who believe, even Muslims. Jesus Christ took our place at the hand of the executioner by being crucified on a cross. His death enables us to have eternal life with God in heaven. Thank God today that your death sentence has been commuted and that you have been pardoned. And pray for those in Muslim nations who may kill Christians on earth, but without Christ, face their own eternal death.

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 (New International Version)

Any (Kind) Thoughts?

“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48 (New Living Translation)

~

Love,

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Your Brother Joe

[Knowingtruth]

On 8/18/2016 at 6:12 PM, FresnoJoe said:

From The Voice Of The Martyrs....

In Muslim nations today, speaking on a religious subject considered to be contrary to Islam can mean death. Ironically, Muslim worshipers face a death penalty themselves. The Bible teaches that the penalty for sin is spiritual death. Apart from Christ, everyone faces eternal death. Thankfully, however, Christ has paid the death penalty for all who believe, even Muslims. Jesus Christ took our place at the hand of the executioner by being crucified on a cross. His death enables us to have eternal life with God in heaven. Thank God today that your death sentence has been commuted and that you have been pardoned. And pray for those in Muslim nations who may kill Christians on earth, but without Christ, face their own eternal death.

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23 (New International Version)

Any (Kind) Thoughts?

“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48 (New Living Translation)

~

Love,

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Your Brother Joe

Yes, Gospel need to be preached to both Muslims and Jews. Muslims have a better standing than Jews because Mohammed recognizes Jesus as the apostle of God and had virgin birth.

[Knowingtruth]

51 minutes ago, Davida said:

So, sorry knowingtruth , I must disagree. It is a common misconception. Islam IS Anti-Christ. The Jesus the muslims are talking about is not our Lord Jesus, it is not the Jesus Christ Son of GOD of the Bible. According to the Koran, Allah has no son and this is written in Arabic on many mosques if not all of them somewhere. It is an Anti-Christ statement. Christians need to be aware that 'allah' of Islam is not the Living GOD of the Bible.

 The Jews however, at least DO believe in the same GOD as Christians who was revealed in the Old Testament and Jesus was sent to be their Messiah as  it is written.  The muslims on the other hand, do not believe that Jesus was an apostle of God, they are taught that Jesus was a prophet of allah and in their prophecy Jesus is returning to proclaim Islam as the true religion and at that time he will break all the crosses and KILL all the JEWS and CHRISTIANS. 

 

Have you read Koran? It is against claiming Jesus as the Son, but not against His preaching in totality. Mohammed did not accept the Son as God which many Christians do. You cannot completely rule out 'Allah' as the Supreme God since he quotes many OT verses.

Of course, Jews believe our God, but reject Jesus in totality. Mohammed recognized Him as an apostle or as a prophet that is better than total rejection. Mohammed was more against Jews than Christians. In fact, he visited the St. Catherine monastery in Sinai offering protection to monks there.

[OakWood]

6 hours ago, Davida said:

So, sorry knowingtruth , I must disagree. It is a common misconception. Islam IS Anti-Christ. The Jesus the muslims are talking about is not our Lord Jesus, it is not the Jesus Christ Son of GOD of the Bible. According to the Koran, Allah has no son and this is written in Arabic on many mosques if not all of them somewhere. It is an Anti-Christ statement. Christians need to be aware that 'allah' of Islam is not the Living GOD of the Bible.

 The Jews however, at least DO believe in the same GOD as Christians who was revealed in the Old Testament and Jesus was sent to be their Messiah as  it is written.  The muslims on the other hand, do not believe that Jesus was an apostle of God, they are taught that Jesus was a prophet of allah and in their prophecy Jesus is returning to proclaim Islam as the true religion and at that time he will break all the crosses and KILL all the JEWS and CHRISTIANS. 

 

There are some other interesting but sinister differences.

Muslim scripture declares that Allah is the great deceiver, but the true God does not lie. Allah is clearly just another alter-ego of Satan.

Muslim scripture declares that Allah made everything in six days but never rested on the seventh because God does not need to rest (however the Q'uran also contradicts itself by declaring in another verse that Allah made everything in eight days).

Muslim scripture also changes and contradicts many Biblical accounts while at the same stealing from them. Between Judaism and Christianity there are no Biblical or historical contradictions, but in Islam, the story of Noah and the flood, the story of Moses, and the accounts of other OT prophets and characters are seriously twisted. Some examples: Allah made Adam clever and Eve stupid (justifying Muslim treatment of women), Jesus could speak as soon as he came out of the womb, Mary the mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron (Moses' brother), and Jesus will return to the Earth to make Islam the official World religion then die after 40 years of a natural death.

Islam twists the chronology of true scripture, insults and demotes Jesus Christ, and conflicts with the official creation account of the Holy Bible. Judaism and Christianity are in complete harmony with each other where they share the same information. Both Jews and Christians believe every word of the Old Testament, whereas Islam introduces corrupted versions of both testaments. Such lies and blasphemies could only have come from Satan himself.

 

[OakWood]

13 hours ago, Knowingtruth said:

Have you read Koran? It is against claiming Jesus as the Son, but not against His preaching in totality. Mohammed did not accept the Son as God which many Christians do. You cannot completely rule out 'Allah' as the Supreme God since he quotes many OT verses.

Of course, Jews believe our God, but reject Jesus in totality. Mohammed recognized Him as an apostle or as a prophet that is better than total rejection. Mohammed was more against Jews than Christians. In fact, he visited the St. Catherine monastery in Sinai offering protection to monks there.

The only way to salvation is to accept that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Any other interpretation is irrelevant. The teachings of Jesus are irrelevant, because we're all damned unless Jesus died for our sins. By presenting a false Jesus that did not die for us, Islam offers no salvation.

Allah is NOT the supreme god because his teachings lead people to eternal damnation, so yes he can be ruled out - he is Satan in disguise, using the name of Jesus to lead people to Hell.

Satan is an impersonator, a liar, and a deceiver. Just because he can quote some verses of the OT does not make him God. In fact the best liars always use a mixture of truth and lies in order to deceive. By presenting the name of Jesus, Satan is hoping to fool many, but close scrutiny reveals that the Jesus of Islam is an imposter, a made-up version of Jesus that will lead Muslims to eternal damnation.

[Knowingtruth]

2 hours ago, Davida said:

That is the first question that always comes from those who only have used google for their information.  

I have read Koran in two English versions and one in our native language. How about you?

[Knowingtruth]

38 minutes ago, OakWood said:

The only way to salvation is to accept that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Any other interpretation is irrelevant. The teachings of Jesus are irrelevant, because we're all damned unless Jesus died for our sins. By presenting a false Jesus that did not die for us, Islam offers no salvation.

Allah is NOT the supreme god because his teachings lead people to eternal damnation, so yes he can be ruled out - he is Satan in disguise, using the name of Jesus to lead people to Hell.

Satan is an impersonator, a liar, and a deceiver. Just because he can quote some verses of the OT does not make him God. In fact the best liars always use a mixture of truth and lies in order to deceive. By presenting the name of Jesus, Satan is hoping to fool many, but close scrutiny reveals that the Jesus of Islam is an imposter, a made-up version of Jesus that will lead Muslims to eternal damnation.

What a wacky thought! So Jesus Christ came in vain and spent nearly three and a half years in preaching of no value! God forbid such thoughts. This is a typical approach of nominal Christians if I may say so. So you think the OT holds the way to salvation? You want to send the gospel books to the dust bin then?

Edited August 25, 2016 by Knowingtruth

[hmbld]

14 hours ago, OakWood said:

There are some other interesting but sinister differences.

Muslim scripture declares that Allah is the great deceiver, but the true God does not lie. Allah is clearly just another alter-ego of Satan.

Muslim scripture declares that Allah made everything in six days but never rested on the seventh because God does not need to rest (however the Q'uran also contradicts itself by declaring in another verse that Allah made everything in eight days).

Muslim scripture also changes and contradicts many Biblical accounts while at the same stealing from them. Between Judaism and Christianity there are no Biblical or historical contradictions, but in Islam, the story of Noah and the flood, the story of Moses, and the accounts of other OT prophets and characters are seriously twisted. Some examples: Allah made Adam clever and Eve stupid (justifying Muslim treatment of women), Jesus could speak as soon as he came out of the womb, Mary the mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron (Moses' brother), and Jesus will return to the Earth to make Islam the official World religion then die after 40 years of a natural death.

Islam twists the chronology of true scripture, insults and demotes Jesus Christ, and conflicts with the official creation account of the Holy Bible. Judaism and Christianity are in complete harmony with each other where they share the same information. Both Jews and Christians believe every word of the Old Testament, whereas Islam introduces corrupted versions of both testaments. Such lies and blasphemies could only have come from Satan himself.

 

I am interested in understanding how the koran has any credibility when history was recorded 1000+ years before Mohammad came along and basically changed recorded history.  If someone came along and said the U.S. civil war happened in 1830, I would have no way of proving him wrong as I did not witness it, yet the civil war is recorded in history and I would have to believe the earlier record over someone making up his own story.  Is it not logically possible to see how carefully Jews recorded and preserved biblical accounts, and conclude they would be more accurate than something that was first committed to written form after Mohammad died?  

[Knowingtruth]

8 hours ago, Davida said:

If you on the other hand had read the Koran ,you would not be saying things that are completely false and naïve.

That is your figment of imagination!

[Knowingtruth]

5 hours ago, Davida said:

Why yes several copies. Why are you so wrong on your facts and misinformed then?

That is what you think with your narrow biased mind