Dok Posted August 29, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 57 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Butero said: Christianity is a religion. It is the one true religion, but it is a religion. Christians that say stuff like that are persecuting themselves and don't know it. There are people that are part of cult religions, and they are religious and don't have God, but that is not what Shiloh was speaking of. Christianity is not "a" religion, nor is it "one of many" religions. It is the only belief, faith, hope and trust relationship with Jesus as Savior and Lord, minus the implication of "organization." Edited August 29, 2016 by Dok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted August 29, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Butero said: Christianity is a religion. It is the one true religion, but it is a religion. Christians that say stuff like that are persecuting themselves and don't know it. There are people that are part of cult religions, and they are religious and don't have God, but that is not what Shiloh was speaking of. I need to make clear what I meant when I said some people have religion and not God. There are some people who can and do follow the rules lay before them by their pastors and their church. They attend church, say Amen when their suppose too, wear the right clothes, have the right hair cut, and they may even know Bible verses by heart. But they have no real relationship with Christ. They have no love for people around them. They bad mouth people and try to make themselves look righteous before others. You get the ideal. That was what I was meaning when I said some have religion and not God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dok Posted August 29, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 57 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2016 17 hours ago, Butero said: If any man among you seem to be RELIGIOUS, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's RELIGION is vain. Pure RELIGION and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:26,27 Christianity is a religion. James was writing to the 12 Tribes of Israel. His is the earliest writing .... he still lingered in Judaism. It is related to the Book of Hebrews, written to the Hebrews, who were being warned not to remain in Judaism. The Hebrew (Jewish) folk clearly understood that their religion was organized. Religion is organized. It sets forth steps for one to use in accessing a deity and maintaining a relationship with it. Think about those religions that require strict obedience to a formula, and then send one back to square one if there is a misstep. Christianity is just the opposite. It is not organized. There are no steps to diligently follow in becoming a Christian or remaining one. Nothing any of us can do will create a God-based identity. The Holy Spirit calls upon each of us to realize that we are lost; we then are drawn to confessing Jesus as Savior (Romans 10:8-13). We don't decide that we are lost and then decide to confess. It is all of God, none of us. We then can never go back to square one; Jesus paid it all! (Romans 8:1). What are some examples of organized religion? Judaism, and any supposedly Christian body that resorts to "systems" for obtaining and retaining salvation, without ever having responded to the call of the Holy Spirit. "Religiously" following an organizational structure, as in Judaism, is a substitute for the Grace offered by God to that people group in the Abrahamic Covenant, resulting in the Law of Moses; structured living impossible to maintain, then violating and adding, creating more and more structure. Result? Jesus, the restoration of Grace, extended to everyone through Paul. Structure gone; it no longer had a purpose. What is the one and only example for a Christian? Grace. God's Amazing Grace, in response to each individual's confession of Jesus as Savior, the indwelling Holy Spirit leading the way as we follow Him. "Lostness" gone, eternity secured. Sadly, Christian denominations have strayed from pure Grace, teaching as doctrine our human machinations (sometimes complicated, some times simplistic maneuvering to establish a theory). They have injected a works salvation, works in order to gain salvation, works in order to maintain it. Millions of confused and outright misguided seekers and finders of our Christian faith toil in ignorance of God's Amazing Grace, striving to find Him and please Him: exhausting tasks. Religion says, "Depend on structure, rules, regulations, commands, traditions, 'holy' traditions, recalled, restored, organized and delivered by earthly authorities. Be obedient, lest you fall!" Christianity says Jesus is Lord. He is our Savior and Sustainer. Our lost estate vanished with Him......we were crucified with Him. "No more night, no more pain, no more tears, never crying again; praises to the Great I AM, we will live in the Light of the Risen Lamb." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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