enoob57 Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,796 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,263 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Carefully reading all the posts I have discerned the issue is with self... an issue that will not go away and Hippie knocked it out of the park! If we are to die to self and live unto God in Biblical fashion then we will find a God centered place within that evaluates where our foundation is at any given time... if upon The Word it will be kept if other it will not continue! We all (I am assuming here) would like to be of the completeness of keeping but it all hinges if it is substanced in God's Word... When one knows by the power of God through Spirit the eternal truth formed from His Word- we are then held accountable to present it to others so that God 'IS' satisfied with the work... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,796 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,263 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: It seems to me that "button pushing" is more in the eye of the beholder than the one doing the action. I asked what I felt was a polite request for clarification and I am told I am being confrontational (iow pushing buttons) and petty. Would it not also be appropriate for a Christian to ask themselves "am I misunderstanding what this person is saying" or "am I being too defensive"? It is apparent your buttons were pushed and you are being driven to justify yourself ... you are doing as you said you would do and have brought it into a personal arena - by which we are instructed by TOS not to do... the issue lies on the fact are you? Concern for how you are perceived by others is a self intensive area and should be examined by motives of why am I concerned here and how will it serve to the Glory of God! I sometimes push buttons to see if what I expect to be true underlayment is in fact so It is only done so that I can quietly and effectively (subtly) minister to them in their need of Biblical sight in that place within they do not see.... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted August 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Hippie333 said: I think maybe we should ask ourselves....."Am I pushing buttons?....What is the Christian approach I should have on the forums?" Twelve Ways to Humble Yourself- Chismar 2009 Routinely confess your sin to God (Luke 18:9-14). All of us sin and fall short of the glory of God. However, too few of us have a routine practice of rigorous self-honesty examination. Weekly, even daily, review of our hearts and behaviors, coupled with confession to God, is an essential practice of humility. Acknowledge your sin to others (James 3:2, James 5:16). Humility before God is not complete unless there is also humility before man. A true test of our willingness to humble ourselves is willingness to share with others the weaknesses we confess to God. Wisdom, however, dictates that we do so with others that we trust. Take wrong patiently (1 Peter 3:8-17). When something is unjust we want to react and rectify it. However, patiently responding to the unjust accusations and actions of others demonstrates our strength of godly character and provides an opportunity to put on humility. Actively submit to authority…the good and the bad (1 Peter 2:18). Our culture does not value submission; rather it promotes individualism. How purposely and actively do you work on submission to those whom God has placed as authorities in your life? Doing so is a good way to humble yourself. Receive correction and feedback from others graciously (Proverbs 10:17, 12:1). In the Phoenix area, a local East valley pastor was noted for graciously receiving any negative feedback or correction offered. He would simply say “thank you for caring enough to share that with me, I will pray about it and get back to you.” Look for the kernel of truth in what people offer you, even if it comes from a dubious source. Always pray, “Lord, what are you trying to show me through this?” Accept a lowly place (Proverbs 25:6,7). If you find yourself wanting to sit at the head table, wanting others to recognize your contribution or become offended when others are honored or chosen, then pride is present. Purpose to support others being recognized, rather than you. Accept and look for the lowly place; it is the place of humility. Purposely associate with people of lower state than you (Luke 7:36-39). Jesus was derided by the Pharisees for socializing with the poor and those of lowly state. Our culture is very status conscious and people naturally want to socialize upward. Resist the temptation of being partial to those with status or wealth. Choose to serve others (Philippians 1:1, 2 Corinthians 4:5, Matthew 23:11). When we serve others, we are serving God’s purposes in their lives. Doing so reduces our focus on ourselves and builds the Kingdom of God. When serving another costs us nothing, we should question whether it is really servanthood. Be quick to forgive (Matthew 18: 21-35). Forgiveness is possibly one of the greatest acts of humility we can do. To forgive is to acknowledge a wrong that has been done us and also to further release our right of repayment for the wrong. Forgiveness is denial of self. Forgiveness is not insisting on our way and our justice. Cultivate a grateful heart (1 Thessalonians 5:18). The more we develop an attitude of gratitude for the gift of salvation and life He has given us, the more true our perspective of self. A grateful heart is a humble heart. Purpose to speak well of others (Ephesians 4:31-32). Saying negative things about others puts them “one down” and us “one up.” Speaking well of others edifies them and builds them up. Make sure, however, that what you say is not intended as flattery. Treat pride as a condition that always necessitates embracing the cross (Luke 9:23). It is our nature to be proud and it is God’s nature in us that brings humility. Committing to a lifestyle of daily dying to ourselves and living through Him is the foundation for true humility. God Bless..Hip good post to bad you dont practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.94 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, coheir said: good post to bad you dont practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, LadyKay said: they say the truth hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: It seems to me that "button pushing" is more in the eye of the beholder than the one doing the action. I asked what I felt was a polite request for clarification and I am told I am being confrontational (iow pushing buttons) and petty. Would it not also be appropriate for a Christian to ask themselves "am I misunderstanding what this person is saying" or "am I being too defensive"? That goes both ways. Both parties need to say what needs to be said and not try to get the last work in. Both parties need to ask themselves if they are being too defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,796 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,263 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The final quip from the Judges mouth "By the toes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, enoob57 said: The final quip from the Judges mouth "By the toes" And the laughing smiley???? That is ok Nurse Ratched is here to help you Matthew 25:40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ Sound familiar cowboy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, Yowm said: The motive, more than the words, is 90% of the confrontational ingredient. I agree Some people just like to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippie333 Posted August 31, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,236 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 673 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1970 Share Posted August 31, 2016 5 hours ago, coheir said: good post to bad you dont practice it. I am curious as to where you think that I don't practice this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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