FresnoJoe Posted September 7, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 208 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Home End Times Great Apostasy Presbyterian Church USA Prays to Allah, Calls Muhammad a Prophet Posted By: External Source on: July 01, 2016 In: Great Apostasy, U.S.190 Comments THE Presbyterian Church, USA, is raising eyebrows after lifting up prayers to Allah at its General Assembly meeting last week. “Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path—the path of all prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.” These were the words that rang out over the congregation at The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, USA meeting in Portland, Oregon. Wajidi Said, co-founder of the Muslim Education Trust, led the attendees in the prayer to the Islamic deity—a move arranged by the Ecumenical and Interfaith ministry staff at the assembly. The prayer was part of the “first order of business” during the meeting’s opening session, a time dedicated to praying for those affected by the Orlando shooting that occurred just weeks before. “In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful, let us praise the Lord … Peace be upon them and peace be upon Allah,” Said prayed. He also prayed peace on the “bigots” and “Islamaphobes.” Later, at the conclusion of the session, Rev. Gradye Parsons offered an apology to anyone who was offended by the prayer. He assured the congregation that mistakes can be made, but the prayer was not an intentional one. http://www.israelislamandendtimes.com/presbyterian-church-usa-prays-to-allah-calls-muhammad-a-prophet/ Any Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,626 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2016 that is really disturbing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted September 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,204 Content Per Day: 3.35 Reputation: 16,629 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2016 While an apology was made to those who were offended, my reaction would not have been hospitable. In fact, I might have been booing loudly and yelling accursed false prophet. Then I would have moved for the excommunication of those who invited the muslim to pray. Saying that a mistake was made is not good enough. Presbyterians need to choose this day whom they will serve, whether it be Jehovah Jesus Christ, the Living God, or the false god of the muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2016 Maybe the Presbyterian Church at one point in history was a Christian Church but from what I hear of it today I would not attend a Presbyterian Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted September 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 9/6/2016 at 8:51 PM, FresnoJoe said: Home End Times Great Apostasy Presbyterian Church USA Prays to Allah, Calls Muhammad a Prophet Posted By: External Source on: July 01, 2016 In: Great Apostasy, U.S.190 Comments THE Presbyterian Church, USA, is raising eyebrows after lifting up prayers to Allah at its General Assembly meeting last week. “Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path—the path of all prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.” These were the words that rang out over the congregation at The General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, USA meeting in Portland, Oregon. Wajidi Said, co-founder of the Muslim Education Trust, led the attendees in the prayer to the Islamic deity—a move arranged by the Ecumenical and Interfaith ministry staff at the assembly. The prayer was part of the “first order of business” during the meeting’s opening session, a time dedicated to praying for those affected by the Orlando shooting that occurred just weeks before. “In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful, let us praise the Lord … Peace be upon them and peace be upon Allah,” Said prayed. He also prayed peace on the “bigots” and “Islamaphobes.” Later, at the conclusion of the session, Rev. Gradye Parsons offered an apology to anyone who was offended by the prayer. He assured the congregation that mistakes can be made, but the prayer was not an intentional one. http://www.israelislamandendtimes.com/presbyterian-church-usa-prays-to-allah-calls-muhammad-a-prophet/ Any Thoughts? Other then the Great Falling Away? I fear for the souls of the pastors of these churches. What does it say? They are going to be held ten times more accountable then we are? I guess they just don't read the Word anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 12, 2016 Any teacher of God's Word such as a pastor, minister or priest will be judged much more harshly than the average person if they do not preach the truth and the true word of God. False teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdohle Posted September 12, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 641 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 12, 2016 I think it was a mistake, bad planning, not apostasy. Though I can understand people being offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3L13v3R Posted September 13, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,261 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1,035 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 13, 2016 May 10th 2011 Presbyterian Church USA officially embraced the sin of homosexuality within their ranks.From the official site:"persons in a same-gender relationship may be considered for ordination and/or installation as deacons, elders, and ministers of the Word and Sacrament within the PC(USA);" ..."Reactions to this change will span a wide spectrum. Some will rejoice, while others will weep. Those who rejoice will see the change as an action, long in coming, that makes the PC(USA) an inclusive church that recognizes and receives the gifts for ministry of all those who feel called to ordained office. Those who weep will consider this change one that compromises biblical authority and acquiesces to present culture." This apostate church with it's further regression from Truth comes as no surprise as they now cry out to the false demon god Allah at one of their general assemblies. As with any church promoting this kind of heresy, it's time for any true Christians to move on out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted September 13, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Share Posted September 13, 2016 This is here in usa. How many churches here in usa will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTRSeeker Posted September 30, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2016 On 2016-09-12 at 8:19 PM, Yowm said: Mark, the PCUSA has been sliding away from God's Word for at least 40 years now. It is pure unadulterated apostasy. It's what happens to any body of believers that slowly turn their backs on God. The UMC , ELCA, UCC and others are as well. Here's what I don't get. With so many Christian denominations with so many different theologies. How can one say which is a true church? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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