EllenDiann Posted September 23, 2016 Group: Newbie Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2016 Has God withheld the CURES or Is Pharmaceuticals withholding the Cures. Answer: God has not withheld the cures, God is the Cure. Healing is because God Is. His Spirit upholds all things and NOTHING that was made was made apart from HIS WORD. He loves us and He wants a surrendered vessel. He wants us to prosper and be in health as our soul prospers. IN HIM, (His Word), we live and move and have our being. Our bodies are the Temple of the Holy Spirit and the temple is being defiled by toxins/poisons from pharmaceuticals poisoning our land, water, food, air and using pharma poisons with evil side effects as medicines. If one room of the temple of God was defiled, the whole temple was defiled. If we poison our body with pharma poisons, we defile the whole body. The Amish are a good example of how healthy one can be when eating foods God created that are not poisoned with pharma toxic concoctions. The Amish children do not get vaccines and Autism is very rare for the Amish because most Amish do not vaccinate. We need to stop idolizing pharma research and pharma pushing doctors and test every word and act with God's Word. God's Word says wisdom is without hypocrisy (James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted September 23, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2016 Blessings EllenDiann Welcome to Worthy,,,,,if anyone has ever read 'The Makers Diet" by Dr Jordan Rubin they would f ind a wealth of information,God has not only Provided us with everything we ever need f or good physical health but also for that of a sound mind,in spite of what man has done to destroy much of the nutrients that are in our soils etc.... we also have Holy Spirit for Wisdom,Understanding & guidance......it is all in the Scriptures,it is a good read with heaps of Bible reference Being a Living Testimony to the Glory of God as one who has been Miraculously Healed of Stage IV incurable cancer I can say that we cannot just expect God t o be that genie in a bottle to grant our wishes but with Great Expectation we can Trust Holy Spirit to direct the path we can follow towards deliverance from all manner of sickness & disease,in Jesus Mighty Name.......does that mean "poof",you are Healed......Well,tha ts where not may be differebnt for each of us,,,,,,yes,always by the Grace & Mercy of God but sometimes through surgery,medications,chemo therapy,radiation or simply by His Divine Intervention ALONE.....we must LISTEN for His Still Small Voice THere are many verses of Scripture )both OT & NT) to support the fact that God does use physicians,medications etc....here are a very few in comparison to many more Quote Ezekiel 47:12 ESV And on the banks, on both sides of the river, there will grow all kinds of trees for food. Their leaves will not wither, nor their fruit fail, but they will bear fresh fruit every month, because the water for them flows from the sanctuary. Their fruit will be for food, and their leaves for healing.” Isaiah 38:21 ESV Quote Now Isaiah had said, “Let them take a cake of figs and apply it to the boil, that he may recover.” Proverbs 17:22 ESV / A joyful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones. 1 Timothy 5:23 ESV (No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.) Matthew 9:12 ESV But when he heard it, he said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Luke 10:34 ESV He went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he set him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him. Rmember ALWAYS,,,,"I will hear no evil report" Quote King James Bible He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the LORD. Psalm 112:7 But stand firmly on Gods Timeless Truth...Trusting always,our Lord & Savior Christ Jesus! With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,676 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,496 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Problem is, your incorrect. There was sickness and death before pharmaceuticals. Even the Amish still get sick and die-from cancer and other diseases. Here, let's see what the Bible says about it: Romans 5:12-14 King James Version (KJV) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,160 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said: Problem is, your incorrect. There was sickness and death before pharmaceuticals. Even the Amish still get sick and die-from cancer and other diseases. Here, let's see what the Bible says about it: Romans 5:12-14 King James Version (KJV) 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Actually , the Amish people do go to the drugstore, I did see them there yesterday and they were talking to the pharmacist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,676 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,496 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, angels4u said: Actually , the Amish people do go to the drugstore, I did see them there yesterday and they were talking to the pharmacist I never said they didn't. Though many do not. I said they get sick just like everyone else. Though are you sure it was the ammish you saw, and not Mennonites? They dress and act similar, but the Mennonites arnt against some modern inventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 8:32 PM, EllenDiann said: Has God withheld the CURES or Is Pharmaceuticals withholding the Cures. Answer: God has not withheld the cures, God is the Cure. Healing is because God Is. His Spirit upholds all things and NOTHING that was made was made apart from HIS WORD. He loves us and He wants a surrendered vessel. He wants us to prosper and be in health as our soul prospers. IN HIM, (His Word), we live and move and have our being. Our bodies are the Temple of the Holy Spirit and the temple is being defiled by toxins/poisons from pharmaceuticals poisoning our land, water, food, air and using pharma poisons with evil side effects as medicines. If one room of the temple of God was defiled, the whole temple was defiled. If we poison our body with pharma poisons, we defile the whole body. The Amish are a good example of how healthy one can be when eating foods God created that are not poisoned with pharma toxic concoctions. The Amish children do not get vaccines and Autism is very rare for the Amish because most Amish do not vaccinate. We need to stop idolizing pharma research and pharma pushing doctors and test every word and act with God's Word. God's Word says wisdom is without hypocrisy (James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere) I do agree that God is the ultimate physician and psychiatrist in our lives. We go to God first for all healing. But God has also provided this earth with physicians and the latest medications to heal our bodies. Before today millions died because we did not have the technology in our medical world and we did not have the medications to heal. We were clueless as to what these diseases were that were killing people off. I try to handle a simple medical aliment as naturally as I can. If a person is diabetic and they do not take insulin they will die. If a person has a serious thyroid disorder and they do not get on the proper medication they could die. If a person has a serious infection and they do not get the antibiotics they need they very well could die.If no one got vaccines we would live in a horrible world with all kinds of diseases and many would die. Luke who was one of Jesus's disciples was a physician. I think that the technology and the medications we have today is a blessing not a curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.94 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 11:32 PM, EllenDiann said: Has God withheld the CURES or Is Pharmaceuticals withholding the Cures. Answer: God has not withheld the cures, God is the Cure. Healing is because God Is. His Spirit upholds all things and NOTHING that was made was made apart from HIS WORD. He loves us and He wants a surrendered vessel. He wants us to prosper and be in health as our soul prospers. IN HIM, (His Word), we live and move and have our being. Our bodies are the Temple of the Holy Spirit and the temple is being defiled by toxins/poisons from pharmaceuticals poisoning our land, water, food, air and using pharma poisons with evil side effects as medicines. If one room of the temple of God was defiled, the whole temple was defiled. If we poison our body with pharma poisons, we defile the whole body. The Amish are a good example of how healthy one can be when eating foods God created that are not poisoned with pharma toxic concoctions. The Amish children do not get vaccines and Autism is very rare for the Amish because most Amish do not vaccinate. We need to stop idolizing pharma research and pharma pushing doctors and test every word and act with God's Word. God's Word says wisdom is without hypocrisy (James 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere) This post is so full of miss information that I don't even know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 35 minutes ago, angels4u said: Actually , the Amish people do go to the drugstore, I did see them there yesterday and they were talking to the pharmacist Yes, the Amish do go to doctors. They are human they have their share of illnesses. But the Christian Science do not believe in the medical world. They have let their family members die because they will not take them to an appropriate medical facility for something that can easily be cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.94 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm sorry to say this but I think some of the post on here are just nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 24, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, LadyKay said: I'm sorry to say this but I think some of the post on here are just nuts. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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