Running Gator Posted October 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2016 10 hours ago, nebula said: The CDC would do itself a service to figure out why some people have life-affecting and life-altering reactions to vaccines instead of denying that there is any correlation. Once the problem is figured out, it could go a long way to preventing future problems. And it would quell conspiracy theorists. When something happens to only 4 in a million there very likely is not really a "reason why", it could be different for each of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted October 11, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted October 11, 2016 10 hours ago, nebula said: And it would quell conspiracy theorists. I doubt it! A look at conspiracy theorist's posts on our very forum, will show you two things: Information that most people find credible, they do not They typically subscribe to more than one conspiracy - it is as if something in their brain wiring, inclines them to look for problems, beyond merely being curious, investigative, or skeptical One thing that I think it would help us all when trying to sort out issues, is to gain an understanding of what actual logic is, and understand the difference in that, and what "sounds good". In particular in a case like this one, it is good to remember that correlation does not equal causation. To make a silly exageration of this principal, for those who are not aware of what I am referring to, consider this fact: Over 87% of people who died in the 1990s, breathed air that had a significant percentage of nitrogen gas in it. Now, if you find that fact disturbing, then you should probably not read conspiracy theories. If you were able to say "so what", then you might be on the right track to understanding things that are real issues. This has been an Omegaman 3.0 editorial opinion. People with differing opinions, are not qualified to disagree intelligently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted October 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2016 And almost 100% of people who have ever had contact with dihydrogen monoxide die at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Out of the Shadows said: When something happens to only 4 in a million there very likely is not really a "reason why", it could be different for each of them. For the number of people whom I have heard who have woken up the next day with a neurological impairment after having been given a vaccine, I have to question this "4 in a million." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted October 12, 2016 7 hours ago, ayin jade said: Some allergies are not known by folks until the first time they have a reaction. So if for instance someone is allergic to eggs (some vaccines use eggs in their manufacture) and doesnt know it, they will get a reaction. Allergy to eggs is listed as a contraindication to many vaccines. The cdc only denies the mercury/autism connection because that study in the uk was proven to be false. The doc in charge of that deliberately falsified data. The study has been refuted and the doc lost his medical license because of it. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html Sorry, Jade, but until someone can actually come up with a reasonable explanation for why it is coincidental for people to have neurological impairment issues after a vaccination, I'm going to keep questioning the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, nebula said: For the number of people whom I have heard who have woken up the next day with a neurological impairment after having been given a vaccine, I have to question this "4 in a million." And how many people is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,703 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,520 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Proven fact, everyone who drinks water dies. Everyone since the beginning of time, save 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: And how many people is that? Look, enough people keep claiming that something went wrong after they or their child had an immunization that got me questioning in the first place what could be wrong. Thinking critically doesn't mean you give up questioning just because there was one study done that was disproved. Once the question rolls, it begs to be answered. "Coincidence" does not satisfy the answer. If you disagree, fine. I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,703 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,520 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted October 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, nebula said: Look, enough people keep claiming that something went wrong after they or their child had an immunization that got me questioning in the first place what could be wrong. Thinking critically doesn't mean you give up questioning just because there was one study done that was disproved. Once the question rolls, it begs to be answered. "Coincidence" does not satisfy the answer. If you disagree, fine. I don't care. Problem is, you and worthy haven't really shown enough coincidences, to really show any real connection between vaccines and allergies, to really show any kind of connection. Like it's been pointed out-you need more then 4 in 4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted October 12, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 566 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 349 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/08/1985 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 hours ago, nebula said: Look, enough people keep claiming that something went wrong after they or their child had an immunization that got me questioning in the first place what could be wrong. Thinking critically doesn't mean you give up questioning just because there was one study done that was disproved. Once the question rolls, it begs to be answered. "Coincidence" does not satisfy the answer. If you disagree, fine. I don't care. Parents claim a lot of things(gluten allergy anyone) doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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