Wayne222 Posted October 17, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 471 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,541 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 7,619 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Online Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 22 hours ago, Bluebird said: Wilkerson published a book in 1974 called The Vision. I own a copy. He did not predict Russia nuking the US, but he did predict several issues, many of which have actually come to pass, which were utterly unthinkable in 1974. Some examples: unprecedented economic prosperity, followed by economic chaos, including a recession followed by a major economic collapse. "Drastic weather changes that include severe storms that would be referred to as "wild weather"; I have heard that exact term used in reference to storms over the last 8-10 years. A "flood" of pornography, which was unimaginable in the early 1970's. From The Vision, page 39 "Along with exploitation of every sex theme, there will be emphasis on blood, vi0lence and occult practices. Demons, devils and witchcraft will be glorified." This next describes Game Of Thrones perfectly: "Also featured will be movies glamorizing rape, suicide and mass sex violence -- ending in death as the ultimate trip". On education, "Students will be told that homosexual love is normal and sex acts between unmarried is desirable -- if each has a high regard for the other". Unthinkable in 1974. He predicted "a constant barrage of sex and nudity" that would "vex" Christians. Children hating their parents. Homosexuals and lesbians being welcomed in church, not only welcomed but encouraged. This was literally unbelievable in 1974, it is "normal" now. He also predicted the rise of the church of Satan. Pollution of the oceans, rivers and waters. The list goes on, but I am running out of time. David Wilkerson had a vision of some kind of New York City out of control on fire sometime in the 1990's, I think, not sure about the exact timing of that. In the mid 2000's, he had a burden, he thought it was about to happen and warned readers of his newsletter (this was after the original 911 2001 event) He was under enormous pressure with a lot of incidence of cancer in his family, and seems to have been deceived either by the original vision, the later burden or both, and people started calling him a false prophet. Wilkerson himself stated flatly that he did NOT consider himself a prophet. That being said, my copy of The Vision is riddled with margin notes marking the prophecies in his book that have already unfolded or are unfolding now. Scripture states that if a prophet's vision proves top come true it is from God. David Wilkerson did far more right than he ever did wrong, but no one mortal is so perfect that Satan can't trick them at least once. Thanks Bluebird that sums up alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 Redemption79 has been removed from the thread and issued a warning point for the following statement: Quote are you trying to judge me simply because i don't believe in the garbage of Fox News, and I don't believe in making disgusting and ignorant statements that homeless enjoy being homeless because it is fun? you said you were homeless once, i have admit, it sounds strange for someone who experienced that yet have no problems with others making statements that basically suggest no help should be given to them because somehow they deserve it yet you want play games with semantics here? let get one thing straight here, if this guy is a Christian like OP has mentioned, and he claims to have visions blah blah he doesn't need to put the words "thus says the Lord" in front of them that is the understanding i dont care enough to want you do anything you are on mine ignore list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 208 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted October 18, 2016 6 hours ago, OneLight said: a downward spiral.... No Hope Therefore Death expands its jaws, opening wide its mouth; into it will descend their nobles and masses with all their brawlers and revelers. Isaiah 5:14 (The Song of the Vineyard) But KING Jesus "For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (New Living Translation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 344 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,393 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,320 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well, I'd like to close my last post on this thread with a statement no one should disagree on. "IF" it's from the Lord, it will be 100% accurate, 100% fulfilled, 100% of the time... Of that you can be 100% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,369 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 1,489 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Online Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just want to ask also. Has there ever been someone who can be said or qualified as to biblical standard as a prophet, in the, let's say last 1000 yrs. And if so, who is that person and what were his prophesies that came true 100 %. To the OP, just elaborating on this topic if you don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
existential mabel Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,146 Content Per Day: 1.06 Reputation: 2,063 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 i have seen the film regarding David Wilkerson's work and it is excellent amazing things were achieved, i havent looked at his prophecies i just watched the film. i have watched it several times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel Posted October 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 20 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,825 Content Per Day: 2.51 Reputation: 5,675 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/20/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1961 Share Posted October 26, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 9:57 AM, The_Patriot2016 said: 4 decades ago? Yeah, that was still cold war era...very much so. And economic downturn? Yeah, still a pretty good guess. Even without looking at the economy, history says every countries economy goes up and down, so to predict ours would go down still wasn't something that needed divine influence. I think the point is, Patriot, you are a cessationist. So to you all modern prophecy is bunk. But my question is, why would God stop communicating through his Holy Spirit? Why would he withdraw the gifts of the Spirit? We'd flounder down here without them. The Bible is not a member of the trinity, is it? God is not contained in a book. He is way bigger than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted October 26, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted October 26, 2016 On 10/18/2016 at 7:03 AM, Dennis1209 said: Well, I'd like to close my last post on this thread with a statement no one should disagree on. "IF" it's from the Lord, it will be 100% accurate, 100% fulfilled, 100% of the time... Of that you can be 100% certain. That makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted October 27, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,673 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,494 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, shel said: I think the point is, Patriot, you are a cessationist. So to you all modern prophecy is bunk. But my question is, why would God stop communicating through his Holy Spirit? Why would he withdraw the gifts of the Spirit? We'd flounder down here without them. The Bible is not a member of the trinity, is it? God is not contained in a book. He is way bigger than that. No, I'm a scripturalist, there is a difference. What scripture says, is the bottom line, period. It has nothing to do with being a "cessasionalist" as you like to put it, but with what scripture says. Scripture says to test everything, and compare it to scripture. If it doesn't line up, then it is not of God. We get ourselves in trouble when we rely on the words of men, over the holy, perfect, divine word of God. And your right the Bible is not God, it is HIS holy book, given to us to teach us about him. It tells us, if it is contrary to that book, then the teaching is not of God. If we somehow think we know what God said better then what the Bible says, then we are on a certain path to destruction. Without Gods holy word, our faith is meaningless. 1:John 4:1-3 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 2 Peter 2:1-3 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. Revelation 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel Posted October 27, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 20 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,825 Content Per Day: 2.51 Reputation: 5,675 Days Won: 13 Joined: 10/20/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1961 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Patriot I don't think anybody said anything about relying on the words of men "over" the words of God. Do you believe the gifts of the Spirit are still in operation, or that they have ceased? It's one or the other. Edited October 27, 2016 by shel clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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