Running Gator Posted October 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 16, 2016 28 minutes ago, Yowm said: lone lōn/ adjective having no companions; solitary or single. "I approached a lone drinker across the bar" synonyms: solitary, single, solo, unaccompanied, unescorted, alone, by oneself/itself, sole, companionless; More lacking the support of others; isolated. "I am by no means a lone voice" literary Even the definition you gave supports my use of the word. It is the "lone" aircraft carrier. Or I could say it is the "single" aircraft carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: The ones I saw were just like the newsmax one. Without some examples we just will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted October 17, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,420 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 17, 2016 12 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: It is, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/14/russian-aircraft-carrier-expected-in-english-channel/ Not really a big deal, they will be shadowed by NATO the whole way, a nice little game on the high seas. I always have to chuckle every time I read "Russia's lone aircraft carrier" What's the use of aircraft carriers when you have missiles that can travel hundreds if not thousands of miles. Warfare of today is not of the era gone by, yes a little, but mostly on wepons of destruction and how powerfull they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 17, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 17, 2016 12 hours ago, warrior12 said: What's the use of aircraft carriers when you have missiles that can travel hundreds if not thousands of miles. Warfare of today is not of the era gone by, yes a little, but mostly on wepons of destruction and how powerfull they are Unless you are talking about a nuclear war, I can assure you that aircraft carriers are of great use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted October 17, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,420 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: Unless you are talking about a nuclear war, I can assure you that aircraft carriers are of great use. Yes, nuclear war. I saw some videos of the russian trident submaries and the arsenal they carry around the world. Pretty daunting i must say. For tactical warfare, yes the carriers are a deterrent. In a full scale war with russia, it would be of little use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 17, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, warrior12 said: Yes, nuclear war. I saw some videos of the russian trident submaries and the arsenal they carry around the world. Pretty daunting i must say. For tactical warfare, yes the carriers are a deterrent. In a full scale war with russia, it would be of little use. In a full scale war with Russia nothing will be of much use except prayer. The arsenal that the US submarines carry around the world is just as daunting. Putin is a lot of things, insane is not one of them. There is no winner in a nuclear war, and he knows that. He will continue to chip away little by little knowing that for the most part the rest of the world will do nothing about it. This display of "force" with the threat of nuclear war is a tactic to get the rest of the world to let him rebuild the USSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 If you are reading the Russian news as you say, you should know that the Russian military believe they can win a Nuclear war. And when pushed into a corner they are capable of doing so. Nuclear weapons have changed a lot since the early cold war days. They have upgraded their systems and we have not... So true or not they do believe they can out live an all out war with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, other one said: If you are reading the Russian news as you say, you should know that the Russian military believe they can win a Nuclear war. And when pushed into a corner they are capable of doing so. Nuclear weapons have changed a lot since the early cold war days. They have upgraded their systems and we have not... So true or not they do believe they can out live an all out war with us. The Russia news tells the Russian people what Putin wants them to hear. There is no winner in a nuclear war, Putin knows this as well as anyone else. Russia is not in a corner, they are in the best position since the fall of the USSR. A war between the US and Russia will not stay between those two alone for long, and there are lots of countries these days with nuclear weapons. There is nothing to be gained by Russia by starting a nuclear war, Putin knows this, he is just saber rattling so the rest of the world will continue to let him rebuild the USSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: The Russia news tells the Russian people what Putin wants them to hear. There is no winner in a nuclear war, Putin knows this as well as anyone else. Russia is not in a corner, they are in the best position since the fall of the USSR. A war between the US and Russia will not stay between those two alone for long, and there are lots of countries these days with nuclear weapons. There is nothing to be gained by Russia by starting a nuclear war, Putin knows this, he is just saber rattling so the rest of the world will continue to let him rebuild the USSR. I agree that Russia is not pushed into a corner. I also agree that they are saber rattling, but I think there is a caveat to that. I'm not so sure that their saber rattling is totally without teeth; i.e., if US were to do something like shoot down Russian planes over Aleppo or start directly targeting assets of the Syrian military or Russian military in Syria, I'd be hard pressed to believe that they wouldn't respond in some form or fashion, perhaps by massively expanding their operations in Ukraine or even making moves towards the Baltics. I don't think Vladimir Putin wants nuclear war, but I think that there is one main difference between the Russian way of thinking (and this goes back to the cold war for them) and the American way of thinking (politically, primarily policy makers in Washington). The Russian paradigm is pragmatic - "nuclear weapons exist, it is possible that they may one day be used, we should methodically prepare for that potentiality and never rationally rule them out as an option." The American paradigm is more hopeful - "it would take a series of catastrophic events to occur in a long succession before such a thing could happen.... and we could certainly hit the brakes before it comes to that point, just like in 1962." Both are right and both are wrong in their own ways. Nuclear release would be the act of madmen, but it would not be the first time madmen have acted in a manner that got innumerable people killed. Right now Russia is doing everything they can to expand their influence, particularly in their own neighborhood. I don't think we can rationally stop this unless we are ultimately willing to go to war with them. The willingness to go to war with them could stop it without an actual war happening, but it would make the risk of a war real and a war between the US and Russia, even if it were initially a very limited regional conflict, could always get out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 18, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: The Russia news tells the Russian people what Putin wants them to hear. There is no winner in a nuclear war, Putin knows this as well as anyone else. Russia is not in a corner, they are in the best position since the fall of the USSR. A war between the US and Russia will not stay between those two alone for long, and there are lots of countries these days with nuclear weapons. There is nothing to be gained by Russia by starting a nuclear war, Putin knows this, he is just saber rattling so the rest of the world will continue to let him rebuild the USSR. Yeah, and Hitler was never going to invade Russia,,,, was a really dumb thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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