WordSword Posted October 19, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,158 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) If I look at the Lord Jesus’ walk on earth, everything He did was to consummate the will of His Father; and He did it. Now what is He thinking of? Not my position before the Father, for that He has accomplished in His work on the Cross. It is my condition here He is thinking of. You may say, but we have to learn our position first; and I answer, yes; of course you cannot be in a condition in keeping with your position without knowing what that position is. First, I am cleared of everything that stood between me and my Father by the Blood of the Lord Jesus. There is no such thing as the Father imputing sin to me anymore. I admit there is often weakness in the heart as to this, but the fact is He does not impute sin to me any longer. But, says one, I know I do sin. I know you do and will, but you must not lose sight of the fact that your Father says: “Their sins and iniquities will I remember no more” (Jer 31:34). Then when you do sin, what do you do? I go into the light, and the light finds it all out. I remember it being pointed out to me once in a showroom that silver when placed in a full blaze of light, any tarnish there might have been on it was no longer visible. So, when the soul is brought into the light, all the tarnish upon it is judged, and put away. This is repentance. Repentance is my putting, by faith, the old man that did the crime* into the same place in which my Father put it in death. I take it out, alas! And repentance is when I put it back again where He has put it. The effect of the light is to make me do this. The light would say, I cannot have this tarnish. The light makes manifest the evil, and having discovered it, it frees me from it*. It brings me, by the Holy Spirit, to confession and cleansing. I say to a person, have you really got into the presence of your Father about this failure? He says to me, I am afraid to. Then I do not wonder at it; I really do not object to the reluctance, for I know how many souls have not got quite clear as to this experience. But there is not a single thing in the heart of my Father against me. He says, I do not remember them, and therefore “if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1Jhn 1:9). Where then is the tarnish? Has the Father cleansed me? But you say, I have done them! Yes, He says; and if you come near to Me, I will take care that you shall get rid of them. “Having therefore . . . boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way, which He has consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, His flesh” (Heb 10:19, 20). Many a saint has not got beyond this: Christ is a shelter for me, and takes care of me. Souls look for their barrel of meal not to waste, and their cruse of oil not to fail. But is that the whole of Christianity? Is it that the Lord Jesus comes and dells with me 365 days – stays with me through every season, and cares for me? I make bold to say it is not. Is it shelter only? No! You are mutilating Christianity if you confine it to this – you are restricting your condition to perpetual childhood. You Father says, I have saved you by My own Son, and now another thing must come in; you are alive by the One who has saved you; My purpose is that you are to be conformed to His image. - J B Stoney Poster’s Opinion: * “the old man that did the crime”: Paul wrote that when he sinned it was not he in the new nature that sinned but the old nature “that does it.” “It is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me” (Rom 7:17, 20). The words “it is no longer I” makes a distinction that he is no longer considered “in the flesh” (8:9) e.g. he is not his sin nature but now he is his new nature. The sin nature is in him but he is not in it but rather in Christ by the Spirit! Though God continues to deal with us and our sins in an instructive manner (never in punishment even though it may seem so), the sin nature and its sins no longer have anything to do with our fellowship with God because we have been separated from them in our new nature via the Cross. The Blood for the sin (1Jhn 1:7) and the Cross for the sin nature (Rom 6:12, 14)! Of course, there is an important significance in understanding the difference between the sins of a believer and an unbeliever (which is highly difficult to explain by any means), which IMO has to do with God’s internal “work” (Phl 2:13), in that not only are the believer’s sins at a lower degree of decadence and with a progressively lessoning frequency, they are not habitually continued, e.g. they are not willfully committed. * “having discovered it, it frees me from it”: this “freedom” is not in reference to our freedom from sin’s guilt, which all believers have, but from its “rule” and “dominion” which may still have an effect of the minds (unclear conscience) of those weak in the faith, due to a lack of understanding all that salvation provides. Miles J Stanford devotional: http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/ Edited October 19, 2016 by Word-Sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted October 20, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,824 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hello WS, I read your post a few times, and I get a mix message , so I think, I believe that some of the things mention are not quite clear , "the reference to repentance, and the questioning of Jesus memory , and we have to say Jesus because he is our Judge , and our Lord, Jesus remembers everything and he never forgets, but for what reason, and why,it is important that he must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 21, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,158 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 21 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: Hello WS, I read your post a few times, and I get a mix message , so I think, I believe that some of the things mention are not quite clear , "the reference to repentance, and the questioning of Jesus memory , and we have to say Jesus because he is our Judge , and our Lord, Jesus remembers everything and he never forgets, but for what reason, and why,it is important that he must Hi YCF - Thanks for your reply! Are you referring what Scripture writes concerning God "remembers our sins no more? God bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted October 21, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,824 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2016 22 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: Hello WS, I read your post a few times, and I get a mix message , so I think, I believe that some of the things mention are not quite clear , "the reference to repentance, and the questioning of Jesus memory , and we have to say Jesus because he is our Judge , and our Lord, Jesus remembers everything and he never forgets, but for what reason, and why,it is important that he must 1 hour ago, Word-Sword said: Hi YCF - Thanks for your reply! Are you referring what Scripture writes concerning God "remembers our sins no more? God bless! Hi WS, I want to be polite, but I have to inform you that I did not meant my post to come through that way, to the contrary I disagree with a lot of the statments that are made in your post. I propose to show that through a conversation, instand of making statments of disagreements. Jesus remembers , and he never forgets anything. He must remember and never forget, for many reasons. Jesus does no have a bad memory , and he does not willingly erase anything from his memory, if you claim that he does, why does he have the need to do that anyway. The scriptures you have mention are outdated and are taken without the contex, and are not for us. See if you can provide the contex of the scriptures you refered to, and you will see that for yourself, how way off you are. If you will give me the contex. Always friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 21, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,158 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: Hi WS, I want to be polite, but I have to inform you that I did not meant my post to come through that way, to the contrary I disagree with a lot of the statments that are made in your post. I propose to show that through a conversation, instand of making statments of disagreements. Jesus remembers , and he never forgets anything. He must remember and never forget, for many reasons. Jesus does no have a bad memory , and he does not willingly erase anything from his memory, if you claim that he does, why does he have the need to do that anyway. The scriptures you have mention are outdated and are taken without the contex, and are not for us. See if you can provide the contex of the scriptures you refered to, and you will see that for yourself, how way off you are. If you will give me the contex. Always friendly I'm not sure what you mean and hopefully you can be more clear of what you speak so I can know how to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 22, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,158 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, Word-Sword said: The scriptures you have mention are outdated and are taken without the contex, and are not for us. I agree if you're referring to Jeremiah 31:34. I believe they are for Israel in the last days during the Millennium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted October 22, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,824 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, Word-Sword said: I agree if you're referring to Jeremiah 31:34. I believe they are for Israel in the last days during the Millennium. No my friend, I never thought about that, and I do not want to Judge those who are into miliniuns and the likes and all sort of things, every generation comes out with his own thing, if I take the opportunity and this is not the subject, Jesus knew very well the reasons he did not involved his disciples in these controversies, let say that those things are not their teachings. The contex is it was for the Generation the Lord God was addressing to, which had gone after the Gods and the women of their neibours, mixing up with them and offering their children to the idols. He told them he will not punish them this time, to returned to him, but for these people to be more specific, if they do it again, his wrath will be upon them, ten times fold. The next generations can not go after other Gods, and then say "look what the scripture say", and apply this for themselfs, no the Lord did not say that to them to begin with, and if he want to say that to them, he can tell them, no to take what it is said for someone else, and aplly it to our selfs, for cosmetic reasons, not the scripture never said if you confess your sins you are forgiven, it says , you may be forgiven at the right time, depents what the sin is all about, But the scripture says that he will not impute our sins against us , to sent us in Hell for one reason, or for others, perhaps he needs us to take care for our faithfull wives and children, and he takes his time, then we see. If we smarten up before his hand of discipline falls upon us, who can tell. That scripture is only for the people he was addressing that time and no body else, unless he says so, and he did not say for ever, for all generations or for all ages, then why the people continiun to have sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins, why if they were continuously white as snow, have sacrifieses for their sin. Would not the sacrifises stop if that was truth, at least for the people he adress that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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