Churchmouse Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Sailingsoul said: how is it selfish to love another person? Please point out where in what I posted that says anything of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailingsoul Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Churchmouse said: Please point out where in what I posted that says anything of the sort. I saw it in your post, die u edit it ? Anyway, that first bit saying its centered on me implies selfishness..also.. I asked how can thr desire be removed..you didnt really tell me how to remove the desire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Sailingsoul said: also, i do have friends( though i only text them) i make sure they feel loved and theyve told me they appreciate me. you are bypassing my question to you. I asked if you if you ever tried to be a friend to yourself. there is a huge difference in the too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailingsoul Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Churchmouse said: you are bypassing my question to you. I asked if you if you ever tried to be a friend to yourself. there is a huge difference in the too. and youre by passing mine. You never told me how to remove such desires as i do have alot to work on and as I am in not ready to be married .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Sailingsoul said: I saw it in your post, die u edit it ? Anyway, that first bit saying its centered on me implies selfishness..also.. I asked how can thr desire be removed..you didnt really tell me how to remove the desire No what I said centers around a fear of letting go. Selfishness is is a thing of hoarding. fear of letting go is a confidence thing that will color the way people see you as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailingsoul Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, Churchmouse said: No what I said centers around a fear of letting go. Selfishness is is a thing of hoarding. fear of letting go is a confidence thing that will color the way people see you as a person. what do you mean a confidence thing? Anyway to answer your question.. My relationship with myself is okay.. Its hard to treat myself better when I cant seem to do much right and feel like a failure. My thoughts are kinda negative....its hard to change..ive tried..i just feel ill feel better about myself when I acheive something. I've been trying but have had major setbacks more than the average person which leads me to believe im kind of a failure.. I'm trying to Chan that thinking too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, Sailingsoul said: and youre by passing mine. You never told me how to remove such desires as i do have alot to work on and as I am in not ready to be married .... If you are going to continue to dodge me then I will have no recourse but to leave you where you are. I am not obliged to help you in the manner you wish, especially if I think it will exacerbate a deeper problem. You sound like you are giving up and I don't let people give up on themselves. That is why I'm taking the tack I am. If I am irritating you, then I apologize and withdraw from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailingsoul Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Churchmouse said: If you are going to continue to dodge me then I will have no recourse but to leave you where you are. I am not obliged to help you in the manner you wish, especially if I think it will exacerbate a deeper problem. You sound like you are giving up and I don't let people give up on themselves. That is why I'm taking the tack I am. If I am irritating you, then I apologize and withdraw from this thread. I answered your question. ...but how is it giving up if I ask for the desire be removed? I cant know for certain ill be married, so its best I'm not distracted by these feelings... So it wont drive me crazy...if I'm not gonna be married, theres no purpose for these feelings and desires. Edited November 1, 2016 by Sailingsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Sailingsoul said: I answered your question. ...but how is it giving up if I ask for the desire be removed? I cant know for certain ill be married, so its best I'm not distracted by these feelings... So it wont drive me crazy...if I'm not gonna be married, theres no purpose for these feelings and desires. You have a desire. A desire to marry? Do you think that God has put that desire on your heart? Do you think you are fighting that desire? Why? How do you not want to be distracted by "these feelings". What feelings? How do you know that you will not be married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted November 1, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sailingsoul said: what do you mean a confidence thing? Anyway to answer your question. (1)My relationship with myself is okay.. (2)Its hard to treat myself better when I cant seem to do much right and feel like a failure. My thoughts are kinda negative....its hard to change..ive tried..i just feel ill feel better about myself when I acheive something. I've been trying but have had major setbacks more than the average person which leads me to believe im kind of a failure.. I'm trying to Chan that thinking too. Therein lies your problem. number one is totally opposite of number two. Your thoughts are negative because you always return to your past quote/unquote failures and you don't realize that those where not failures. They were learning experience on what won't work for you. You are waiting for this magic word called success to suddenly appear out of nowhere before you will fell quote/unquote better about yourself. That isn't the way things happen. You have opportunities all around you that pop in and out of your life. They don't wait for you to feel better about yourself, especially when you are already a success. You just took the wrong lesson when winning evaded you. you don't try to change your attitude. You get pissed off enough at where you are in your head and just move out of it or you stay where you are and lick your imaginary wounds. I'm telling you this, because I have been where you are and have contemplated ending my life on several occasions. I've worked out the details and have gathered everything I needed to do the job, but I always failed to do the ultimate failure and kill myself, because life is a success. How many people do you know that were younger than you and were taken from the world before they should have? You are still here and that makes you a success. You just haven't recognized it because you are concentrating on what you haven't done instead of what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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