Guest Teditis Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I think that a bit of a twist to the context... that was speaking of peoples immigrating to ancient Israel. Speaking to the fairness of which they were to impart to foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Seeker Posted December 7, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 34 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Teditis said: I think that a bit of a twist to the context... that was speaking of peoples immigrating to ancient Israel. Speaking to the fairness of which they were to impart to foreigners. And again! Did Paul not say that we are grafted in to Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Truth Seeker said: And again! Did Paul not say that we are grafted in to Israel? And that of course is in relationship to the Church, which is not under Law but under Grace. It gets pretty tiresome when people can't (or won't) understand the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Abby-Joy said: I don't understand why folks who are under the Law and all the OT ordinances and feast observances don't still do animal sacrifices???? Because they are playing games (primarily with themselves). On one hand they claim they are Torah observant. On the other hand they make excuses for being unable to be Torah observant. But according to the Torah IT IS ALL OR NOTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Seeker Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 34 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2016 Awfully condescending remarks there. I don't understand why modern Christianity in America fights so hard against God's laws. You tell people not to sin but you have no specifics about what sin is and what is not sin. It is confusing to me so imagine how it looks to the lost. It is no wonder that Christianity is dying! And YES I do understand the old and new covenants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2016 Quote 22 hours ago, Abby-Joy said: I don't understand why folks who are under the Law and all the OT ordinances and feast observances don't still do animal sacrifices???? Because they are playing games (primarily with themselves). On one hand they claim they are Torah observant. On the other hand they make excuses for being unable to be Torah observant. But according to the Torah IT IS ALL OR NOTHING. Ezra How are these statements condescending? It is the TRuth,if one is going to abide by the Law,the WHOLE Law & observe the Torah,it is indeed ALL or NOTHING, Quote King James Bible For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. James 2:10 Quote Scripture gives as a law, to love our neighbour as ourselves. This law is a royal law, it comes from the King of kings; and if Christians act unjustly, they are convicted by the law as transgressors. To think that our good deeds will atone for our bad deeds, plainly puts us upon looking for another atonement. According to the covenant of works, one breach of any one command brings a man under condemnation, from which no obedience, past, present, or future, can deliver him. This shows us the happiness of those that are in Christ. We may serve him without slavish fear. God's restraints are not a bondage, but our own corruptions are so. The doom passed upon impenitent sinners at last, will be judgment without mercy. But God deems it his glory and joy, to pardon and bless those who might justly be condemned at his tribunal; and his grace teaches those who partake of his mercy, to copy it in their conduct. Matthew Henry Commentary With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted December 8, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2016 Oh,I forgot to mention that it is Good News for the "lost",the seeker,the unbeliever,the babes in Christ & anyone who does not YET have Wisdom & Understanding ..... Simply put all your Trust in God,He Renews the mind,He Reveals His Word,Him Self,He Writes His Word on the Heart,the renewed heart.......these are not things that are confusing,troubling,fearsome........our Precious Lord & Savior has not left us to ,figure these things out for ourselves & He has covered all of our sins,eradicated them from even His Own Remembrance(past ,present & future) that we may be Spotless & Worthy in our Fathers Eyes......His Spirit,Holy Spirit comes to Council,Teach,Guide & Show us what is beyond even our own understanding.................... Quote Proverbs 3:5-6New International Version (NIV) 5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;6 in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.[a] Christianity is not dying,God is pouring out His Holy Spirit like never before!!!!! It is indeed,the Good News!! THe KIngdom of God is at hand! With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2016 15 hours ago, Truth Seeker said: You tell people not to sin but you have no specifics about what sin is and what is not sin Let's be really honest about this. There is not one grown adult in the world who does not know what sin is, what evil is, what lawlessness is, what anarchy is. Everyone knows the difference between good and evil. In the western world, probably everyone has heard about the Ten Commandments, or seen the movie with Charlton Heston as Moses (probably worldwide). What people do with it is another matter. 16 hours ago, Truth Seeker said: It is no wonder that Christianity is dying! False Christianity (or Pseudo-Christianity) may be dying, but not Bible Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,437 Content Per Day: 0.91 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2016 Ezra, I could not agree with you more! Absolutely true its just that people deny they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remnantrob Posted December 9, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,029 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 261 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1982 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 10 hours ago, Ezra said: Let's be really honest about this. There is not one grown adult in the world who does not know what sin is, what evil is, what lawlessness is, what anarchy is. Everyone knows the difference between good and evil. In the western world, probably everyone has heard about the Ten Commandments, or seen the movie with Charlton Heston as Moses (probably worldwide). What people do with it is another matter. I would disagree only because I think you have to differentiate between sin and morality. Even sin between the 3 major religions is not totally agreed upon. For example in islam drinking alcohol is sin but in christianity drunkeness is generally considered the sin. You'd be surprised at the amount of people who are ignorant of the 10 commandments. I mean I've seen surveys where people believe Joan of Arc was Noah's wife. And "christians" who believe the statement God helps those who help themselves is a text in the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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