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  1. 1. Which is your rapture view

    • Pre trib rapture
    • mid trib rapture
    • post trib rapture
    • End of millenium rapture
    • No rapture


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9 hours ago, OneLight said:

These are the same event.  There will be only one trumpet sound for the rapture.

The Rapture of the church should never be confused with the second coming or second advent of Christ, for He does not come to the earth at that time.
The Rapture is a distinct coming in itself, not to the Earth, but in the air where Christ meets the saints and then takes them back to Heaven to present them blameless before God the Father, John 14:1-3; 1 Thess. 3:13; 4:16, 17.

1. - The lord comes down to meet us in the air, with a TRUMP.

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then, within a nano-second, another Trumpet shall sound, which is the last trump, and at this trump, the dead shall be raised . . . . The living will be changed from mortality as quickly as the dead will be raised to immortality. The time needed for this is a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. The Greek says "en-atomo," in a moment of time and this will happen at the last two trumpets. the first when the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout and a TRUMP, and the second, when the dead are raised incorruptible.

There has to be two trumps for there to be a last trump. Its impossible for there to be a last, a following trump without a  first.

2. - 1 Cor. 15:52,  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Notice, the first trump has already sounded as the Lord descended, and then in an  "en-atomo," in a moment of time the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we, who are alive shall be changed.

Trump 1, the Lord descends, trump 2, the dead rise and we are changed.

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31 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

The Rapture of the church should never be confused with the second coming or second advent of Christ, for He does not come to the earth at that time.
The Rapture is a distinct coming in itself, not to the Earth, but in the air where Christ meets the saints and then takes them back to Heaven to present them blameless before God the Father, John 14:1-3; 1 Thess. 3:13; 4:16, 17.

1. - The lord comes down to meet us in the air, with a TRUMP.

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then, within a nano-second, another Trumpet shall sound, which is the last trump, and at this trump, the dead shall be raised . . . . The living will be changed from mortality as quickly as the dead will be raised to immortality. The time needed for this is a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. The Greek says "en-atomo," in a moment of time and this will happen at the last two trumpets. the first when the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout and a TRUMP, and the second, when the dead are raised incorruptible.

There has to be two trumps for there to be a last trump. Its impossible for there to be a last, a following trump without a  first.

2. - 1 Cor. 15:52,  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Notice, the first trump has already sounded as the Lord descended, and then in an  "en-atomo," in a moment of time the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we, who are alive shall be changed.

Trump 1, the Lord descends, trump 2, the dead rise and we are changed.

I am not confusing it with anything.  Scripture tells us that we will be caught up to be with the Lord as the last trump.  I am not sure why you want to reply as if I had thought any different, or if I believe this or that.  I made one statement and supported it with scripture. 

22 hours ago, OneLight said:

Though you have chosen your best answer, I will reply as I could not choose any of your choices.  I believe the rapture will occur at the last trump.  When that will be, I cannot say.

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

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11 minutes ago, OneLight said:

I am not confusing it with anything.  Scripture tells us that we will be caught up to be with the Lord as the last trump.  I am not sure why you want to reply as if I had thought any different, or if I believe this or that.  I made one statement and supported it with scripture. 

 

 

One cannot ignore scripture, there are two trumps mentioned;

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, Trump 1,  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  . . . .   Tahh'ta-ta-taadaa tadaaa, Here He comes to the clouds!

The first trump sounded while the Lords descends to the clouds;

Then the second trump sounds as the dead are raised and we which are alive are changed.

1 Cor. 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:

Trump 2, the dead rise and we, who are alive are changed.

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27 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

One cannot ignore scripture, there are two trumps mentioned;

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, Trump 1,  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  . . . .   Tahh'ta-ta-taadaa tadaaa, Here He comes to the clouds!

The first trump sounded while the Lords descends to the clouds;

Then the second trump sounds as the dead are raised and we which are alive are changed.

1 Cor. 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:

Trump 2, the dead rise and we, who are alive are changed.

I'm not ignoring scripture, nor am I trying to place two trumpets at the same event.  That would be you.  Neither scripture you point two declares more than one trumpet sound. 

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11 minutes ago, OneLight said:

I'm not ignoring scripture, nor am I trying to place two trumpets at the same event.  That would be you.  Neither scripture you point two declares more than one trumpet sound. 

In your opinion.

I'm not placing two trumpets at the same event. There are two Scriptures which clearly state this.

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, Trump 1, and 1 Cor. 15:52, at the last trump:

For there to be a last trump during this event, there must be one before this, the first. One cannot be last if one is the only one running.

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24 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

In your opinion.

I'm not placing two trumpets at the same event. There are two Scriptures which clearly state this.

1 Thess. 4:16, 16, Trump 1, and 1 Cor. 15:52, at the last trump:

For there to be a last trump during this event, there must be one before this, the first. One cannot be last if one is the only one running.

I guess you can then see the problem with our discourse.  I am speaking of only the time of the rapture, not before, nor after.  You are widening the time-frame to include more.

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On ‎12‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 3:13 AM, Giller said:

Here is another poll I want to do, to see what rapture view you hold on to.

Is it pre trib, mid trib, post trib, end of millenium rapture, or no rapture?

Hi Giller,

The believers in the Body of Christ will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air and escort Him to His own throne in the third heaven, where He will be acclaimed by all of heaven and the believers will rule and reign with Him over all. The Lord will then bring the judgments upon the rebellious nations and the believers as kings and priests will be the heavenly court in agreement with the Lord`s judgments. The tribulation will have begun.

regards, Marilyn.

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pre-trip== only choice that makes sense dispensationaly

 

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15 hours ago, woundeddog said:

pre-trip== only choice that makes sense dispensationaly

 

That might be true - but biblically Matt 24 says it is "After the great tribulation" that all tribes of the earth See Christ appear in the sky and He sends His angels to gather His elect.

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