Lilylove1111 Posted November 14, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 38 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/17/1964 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Ty for replies. Im enlightened. ..now if my scale would follow suit hahaha Edited November 15, 2016 by Lilylove1111 Done with research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 14, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,829 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2016 36 minutes ago, Lilylove1111 said: If Christ is the only way to heaven...then do these things matter and or hinder True salvation? Christ is the only want to heaven...... that means he and only he makes that decision...... not us. We have been told if we do certain things and mean them that we "will" go to heaven, but he still makes those decisions no matter what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilylove1111 Posted November 14, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 38 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/17/1964 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Tyvm Edited November 15, 2016 by Lilylove1111 Voice text errors a plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Ask a Catholic if they confess that Jesus is their personal Lord and Savior and if they believe that He is the only way to Salvation.... most will tell you, "Yes!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilylove1111 Posted November 14, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 38 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/17/1964 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) All set tyvm Edited November 15, 2016 by Lilylove1111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 No, that's not quite accurate.... it's the Mormons and JW who admit the Jesus is something other than God the Son. They don't recognize His deity... Catholics do. So I say YES!! Catholics are Born-Again, Spirit-Filled Believers. Though they do "add" to the Gospel of Salvation... they obey it's basic tenants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted November 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,056 Content Per Day: 15.08 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Teditis said: Ask a Catholic if they confess that Jesus is their personal Lord and Savior and if they believe that He is the only way to Salvation.... most will tell you, "Yes!" I agree. You and I have had a very detailed discussion about this matter on another thread. Your simple answer is one I can totally agree with. "Yes!" And I'll leave it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 15, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2016 "Christian is my name, and Catholic my surname. The one designates me, while the other makes me specific. Thus am I attested and set apart... When we are called Catholics it is by this appellation that our people are kept apart from any heretical name." -----Saint Pacian of Barcelona, Letter to Sympronian, 375 A.D.. Well said St. Pacian! Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted November 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Teditis said: Ask a Catholic if they confess that Jesus is their personal Lord and Savior and if they believe that He is the only way to Salvation.... most will tell you, "Yes!" Then how will they explain the NECESSITY of sacraments for salvation? Because that is what the Catechism teaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 15, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Ezra said: Then how will they explain the NECESSITY of sacraments for salvation? Because that is what the Catechism teaches. Quite an interesting statement Erza. You claiming to be a former Catholic, and also claiming by being so, that you are well versed in Catholicism, should know that all sacraments derive their power from Jesus. We don't rely on sacraments "instead of " Jesus; rather, we rely on Jesus, Who acts THROUGH the sacraments which He instituted. Even my ten y.o. grandson knows that! Do you also know what it says in Dominus lesus, (22)? (probably not, so I'll post it for ya) "Indeed, the Church, guided by charity and respect for freedom, must be primarily committed to proclaiming to all people the truth definitively revealed by the Lord, and to announcing the necessity of conversion to Jesus Christ and of adherence to the Church through Baptism and the other sacraments, in order to participate fully in communion with God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Thus, the certainty of the universal salvific will of God does not diminish, but rather increases the duty and urgency of the proclamation of salvation and of conversion to the Lord Jesus Christ." You should also know in the Lumen Gentium (again, maybe not) it says: 7. "In the human nature united to Himself the Son of God, by overcoming death through His own death and resurrection, redeemed man and re-molded him into a new creation.(50) By communicating His Spirit, Christ made His brothers, called together from all nations, mystically the components of His own Body. In that Body the life of Christ is poured into the believers who, through the sacraments, are united in a hidden and real way to Christ who suffered and was glorified.(6*) Through Baptism we are formed in the likeness of Christ: "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body".(51) In this sacred rite a oneness with Christ's death and resurrection is both symbolized and brought about: "For we were buried with Him by means of Baptism into death"; and if "we have been united with Him in the likeness of His death, we shall be so in the likeness of His resurrection also".(52) Really partaking of the body of the Lord in the breaking of the Eucharistic bread, we are taken up into communion with Him and with one another. "Because the bread is one, we though many, are one body, all of us who partake of the one bread".(53) In this way all of us are made members of His Body,(54) "but severally members one of another".(55) 50 Cf. Gal. 6:15; 2 Cor. 5:17. 51 1 Cor. 12:13. 52 Rom. 6:15. 53 1 Cor. 10:17. 54 Cf. 1 Cor 12:27. 55 Rom. 12:5. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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