hmbld Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, StanJ said: impassive is not the same as impassible and if this is the way you study then no wonder you don't get answers. Definition of impassive 1a archaic : unsusceptible to painb : unsusceptible to physical feeling : insensiblec : unsusceptible to or destitute of emotion : apathetic 2: giving no sign of feeling or emotion : expressionless impassively adverb impassiveness noun impassivity play \ˌim-ˌpa-ˈsi-və-tē\ noun https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impassive Definition of impassible 1a : incapable of suffering or of experiencing painb : inaccessible to injury 2: incapable of feeling : impassive impassibility play \-ˌpa-sə-ˈbi-lə-tē\ noun impassibly play \-ˈpa-sə-blē\ adverb https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impassible Edited December 4, 2016 by hmbld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 hours ago, StanJ said: impassive is not the same as impassible and if this is the way you study then no wonder you don't get answers. Sorry, wrong link, but the correct link is what I posted. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impassive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 hours ago, StanJ said: impassive is not the same as impassible and if this is the way you study then no wonder you don't get answers. By the way, if I were to correct someone on a definition, I would post the correct one, not mock them like you have me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, nebula said: Definition of impassive 1a archaic : unsusceptible to painb : unsusceptible to physical feeling : insensiblec : unsusceptible to or destitute of emotion : apathetic 2: giving no sign of feeling or emotion : expressionless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impassive [Edit : I originally posted the wrong link] Psalm 78 38 But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. 39 For he remembered that they were but flesh; a wind that passeth away, and cometh not again. 40 How oft did they provoke him in the wilderness, and grieve him in the desert! How can God have anger to turn away, wrath to be stirred up, and grief is He is impassive? And again: Or how can God "rejoice over" anyone without "giving sign of feeling or emotion"?"The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing." (Zeph. 3:17) Now, WILL YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS? Or are you again going to find some way to wiggle out of answering them again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, StanJ said: As opposed to your arguments of denial which are based on nothing more than ignorance and misunderstanding. Apparently many people are not yet ready to move on to maturity. Heb 6:1-3 You preach the immutability of God yet you obviously don't understand what it means or you would understand about impassibility. When many of us struggle to know the mystery of God you apparently have him all figured out. Is it necessary to get personal with your posts. I have a lot of room to talk when it comes to frustration and anger, but i would not like to see this disintegrate into a flame war. Please don't use scripture to denigrate others or prop you up personally. That's just...................! Edited December 4, 2016 by Churchmouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 14 hours ago, StanJ said: you should look up the meaning of the word impassible. http://www.theopedia.com/Impassibility_of_God The first link on the web page does not work. The second link on the web page states thus: "But none of this means that God is devoid of (what we call) feelings." You have no case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, StanJ said: As opposed to your arguments of denial which are based on nothing more than ignorance and misunderstanding. Apparently many people are not yet ready to move on to maturity. Heb 6:1-3 You preach the immutability of God yet you obviously don't understand what it means or you would understand about impassibility. When many of us struggle to know the mystery of God you apparently have him all figured out. I know exactly what impassible means. It doesn't mean that God doesn't have emotions. Having emotions and feelings doesn't deny immutability. To even suggest a thing is absurd on its face. God doesn't change because His nature/character is unchanging. He doesn't lie or break His promises. That does not mean that God doesn't experience emotions. Our emotions come from Him and are evidence that we are made in His image. God has emotions, but God is not driven by impulsive passions, as I stated before. God is not given to mood swings and fits of rage. But God can and does exhibit hate toward sin, love toward sinners; He can be grieved, angered and feels joy and happiness. God exhibits compassion and professes affection/love for His children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJ Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/08/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/12/1953 Share Posted December 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Churchmouse said: You used the site as a reference to for making a point about the supposed impassibility of God. and I never said I didn't accept the site because I didn't know who ran it. I said I had trouble accepting it because of his religious leanings were suspect. Would you expect me to accept a website ran by a Catholic? No matter what the intent is in constructing a web site, The owner ultimately sets the tone of the site and the Admins do here. Also, I did say that I read the area where information was to be submitted and there are very few safeguards on the reliability of any information or the quality of those reviewing such information. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, such material found there doesn't rise to the level of Biblical truth and understanding. In there lies the difference of concern. There have been many links to many web sites, both religious and secular in nature, that have been used here and many have be dismissed because of their reputation. That which you have linked to here, as I've said I am skeptical of, because: (1) I know the owners religious leanings, which I don't share. (2) There is no references to any credentials for those who review any information within the site. (3) There is no references to connect anything I've seen stated there with the Authors who have submit the info. So their qualifications can't be verified. All this brings into question every bit of information found there. It can't be interdependently verified. No person of merit is known to be apart of the verification process. How are we, as Christian supposed to take anything from there as anything more than the fabrication of others imaginations and opinions. Further more what is to stop any Atheists from planting false information on this site, to humor themselves? I am still open to discuss this with you. I have not said that I reject everything you have said. Just could you not use the site in question to make your points as I have found it quite lacking. well if you read the post before yours you'll see a few links that also talk about God's impassibility. Nothing can convince you unless you're open to the truth, and allow the Holy Spirit to show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJ Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/08/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/12/1953 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Churchmouse said: Is it necessary to get personal with your posts. I have a lot of room to talk when it comes to frustration and anger, but i would not like to see this disintegrate into a flame war. Please don't use scripture to denigrate others or prop you up personally. That's just...................! This was no more personal than the previous post was towards me and as far as using scripture is concerned to denigrate somebody that means you think God's word denigrates people? The law of sowing and reaping is constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJ Posted December 4, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/08/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/12/1953 Share Posted December 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Davida said: FYI , That's not the Holy Spirit if it contradicts the Word of GOD. The heavenly Father, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit - They are Three in ONE and God never contradicts Himself. That's right, God doesn't contradict himself or his word, but God does contradict people and their beliefs even when they seem to be in line with what scriptures says. If you truly believe in the immutability of God then what do you do with scripture like Gen 6:6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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