rjs310 Posted May 1, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 12 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Enoch2021 said: 'evolution' doesn't and NEVER existed. I'll show you, ask them these... 1. 'evolution' What's that...?? Define evolution...? 2. Post the *Scientific Theory* of evolution...? 3. Post the Formal Scientific Hypotheses then *Experiments* that concretized it into a *REAL* Scientific Theory...? 4. Highlight The Independent Variables used in Each TEST...? The world's leading 'evolutionary biologists' can't answer them. It's quite the sight to behold That's "wiki" Horse Pucky: So we can't prove anything in Physics and Biochemistry --- "The Physical" ?? ... we can only PROVE the "IMMATERIAL" (Mathematics), eh? Hmmm, So these aren't "PROVEN"... a. Unless it is hindered purposely; in "Nature"....Heat Flows from Hot to Cold (*Always!*), Energy Concentrated to Dispersed (*Always!*), High GAS Pressure to Low Pressure (*Always!*) b. Nature/Natural Law CAN NOT create or destroy matter/energy. c. Vitamin C deficiency in Humans results in Scurvy. d. Protein Secondary Structure is the result of Primary Structure and Hydrogen Bonding. e. Insulin Deficiency in Type 1 Diabetics results in Keto-Acidosis. f. INFORMATION is ALWAYS sourced by Intelligent Agency, Without Exception! g. Life ONLY comes from LIFE. h. ONLY the Existence of "Which-Path Information" COLLAPSES the Wave Function. i. The Laws of Physics and Chemistry contain no Symbolic Logic Functions. j. Wrong Handed Stereoisomers DESTROY DNA/RNA/Protein Secondary Structure. k. DNA: Transcription, Translation, Replication; Glycolysis, Krebs Cycle/Electron Transport Chain, Gluconeogenesis, Flagellum, Cilia...ect ect ) and Bicycles are *ALL*, IN TOTO... *Irreducibly Complex* !!! I could go on for MONTHS !! So you're saying, we're just not sure?? But: 2 - 4 = -2 is " PROVED " ?? regards I fully agree! You have brought up a couple of good points like #3 and #4. The other things I have brought up to no avail. Some if the people I've debated actually pull out the text books that state science doesn't prove anything. It's really nothing but a convenient scape goat. Especially where evolution is concerned. They do have a nice array of examples such as retro viruses and evolving alge that are used as evidence. It's pretty amazing really how they believe without any real testable and verifiable evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch2021 Posted May 1, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,396 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 730 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1963 Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, rjs310 said: It's really nothing but a convenient scape goat. It's quite incoherent. Quote Especially where evolution is concerned. 1. 'evolution' What's that...?? Define evolution...? 2. Post the *Scientific Theory* of evolution...? 3. Post the Formal Scientific Hypotheses then *Experiments* that concretized it into a *REAL* Scientific Theory...? 4. Highlight The Independent Variables used in Each TEST...? Quote They do have a nice array of examples such as retro viruses... Have them show the EXPERIMENTS: The Final Arbiter of TRUTH in 'Science' is *EXPERIMENT* !! Lewars, EG: Computational Chemistry -- Introduction to the theory and application of Molecular and Quantum Mechanics; Third Edition 2016, p. 5. "The author describes the three-legged stool of scientific error correction as experimental care, reproducible experiment, and peer review. Like Occam’s razor, peer review is a TEMPORAL EXPEDIENT for judging scientific work at a given time. Peer review serves the temporal interests of publishers, funding agencies, and employers. The ultimate arbiter of scientific validity is *REPEATABLE EXPERIMENT ALONE*." Courtney, A et al: Comments Regarding “On the Nature of Science”; Physics in Canada, Vol. 64, No. 3 (2008), p 7-8. https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0812/0812.4932.pdf "The only way things change in Physics is *EXPERIMENTS*. ...Everything is based on *EXPERIMENT*, that's the only way we change our mind." Ramamurti Shankar; Professor of Physics, Yale. Wave Theory of Light. ( .22 second mark) "If it doesn't agree with *EXPERIMENT*, it's WRONG. In that simple statement is the *KEY* to *SCIENCE*". Richard Feynman (Nobel Prize, Physics); The Essence Of Science In 60 Seconds. “*EXPERIMENT* is the only means of knowledge at our disposal. Everything else is *POETRY, IMAGINATION*.” Max Planck (Nobel Prize, Physics), Quoted in; Atkins P.W.,: Molecular Quantum Mechanics; Oxford University Press, 1983 "The scientific method *REQUIRES* that an hypothesis be ruled out or modified if its predictions are clearly and repeatedly incompatible with *EXPERIMENTAL TESTS*. Further, no matter how elegant a theory is, its predictions must agree with *EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS* if we are to believe that it is a valid description of nature. In physics, as in every experimental science, *"EXPERIMENT is supreme"* and *EXPERIMENTAL VERIFICATION* of hypothetical predictions is *ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.*" http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/appendixe/appendixe.html Quote It's pretty amazing really how they believe without any real testable and verifiable evidence. Yep, 'Blind Faith' masquerading as 'Science'. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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