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12 minutes ago, Bonky said:

Whatever helps you sleep.

No need for help.

Yahweh always grants HIS Beloved sleep and rest.  (a GIFT OF GRACE, always given, never earned, never lacking or broken)

Yeshua, the GOOD SHEPHERD,  leads HIS OWN sheep to green pastures, giving rest and comfort and nourishment,

Yeshua, the GOOD SHEPHERD , leads HIS OWN sheep to still waters,  IN PERFeCT PEACE.

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On 1/4/2017 at 7:13 AM, Seanc said:

I'm sure this has been discussed many times but the few active discussions I saw went off topic with evolution and such so I decided to start a new thread. 

I have been reading different apologetic books and pondering an answer from an atheist perspective(which I am not).

To start off I believe that C.S lewis explains best in that objective morality is not instinctual. His example goes like this: You see a man drowning, he's a stranger. Two instincts come up. The first being the "herd instinct" to save the man. The second is the "survival instinct" to keep yourself safe/alive. The second instinct is the stronger of the two but morality pushes you toward the weaker one. It tells you that you ought to save the man because it is "right".

The other point he makes is that its more than just a "social convention" that its more than just what is taught to you and that if you can judge two different peoples morals and say one is better and the other lesser then you are implying there is a Real morality or a Real right independent of what people think. 

So my question is and I'm basing this off a question I was posed with is would we only lean closer to what "you" were taught? Does it surpass my understanding and learning? Is it objective? 

Before I submit this I want to say that I believe in an objective morality but I need help to further understand it before i even try to explain it to someone else. Anyone got an answer?


we could at least understand that no soul would ultimately like to undergo what is detrimental/harmful, unpleasant or unbearable to them, and this is precisely the understandable enough law on which all the Word of the true God is founded

Matthew 7:12 (NLT) "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."

so if we don't want anyone to cause us evil, we should not cause evil to others, and if we want to be saved to abundant and eternal life, then we should work for such salvation for others


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