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3 hours ago, soonsister said:

I don't understand your last sentence there and how it ties to your prior sentences. An excuse for guns? Outlawing Tylenol that can be deadly?

This is what you said:

" Of would we outlaw sharp objects, rocks, swords, household chemicals because they can be used as poisonous weapons?" That is why I replied as I did.

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15 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Depends on how the government defines "mental illness."   Stalin locked up political dissenters in asylums on the grounds that they were "mentally ill."

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15 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Well there are those who the authorities can look up with previous offenses or they are labeled with a mental illness in the systems. But like I said there are those who do not have any previous problems and have a clear record to get a gun who have anger problems and use them to threaten anyone they are angry at and they use it inappropriately.

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14 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Those people could be the same way with a knife, a ball bat, a car, a rope...

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14 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Suit yourself.But we do regulate cars and that has made them safer. How many people can a single person kill with a knife in 10 seconds.

 

If no one else has a knife and you're in a crowded room, and you have the element of surprise, you can kill a lot of people in a very short time.   

We regulate cars to make them safer in terms of not having accidents.  The safest car in the world could be driven down a crowded city sidewalk on a Saturday night and murder many people.  

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4 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

If no one else has a knife and you're in a crowded room, and you have the element of surprise, you can kill a lot of people in a very short time.   

We regulate cars to make them safer in terms of not having accidents.  The safest car in the world could be driven down a crowded city sidewalk on a Saturday night and murder many people.  

Proof in point as to what your saying: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/

29 people killed by a knife. That's more people then the deaths and wounded total at the recent shooting in Florida. When are people going to figure out guns arnt the problem. I'll keep mine.

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3 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

Proof in point as to what your saying: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/

29 people killed by a knife. That's more people then the deaths and wounded total at the recent shooting in Florida. When are people going to figure out guns arnt the problem. I'll keep mine.

Exactly right.

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In fact if a person knew how to use a knife one could conceivably kill more with a knife, for 2 reasons. One, is they're quiet. When someone fires a gun, everyone automatically goes into fight or flight turning everyone into a moving target running away from you or trying to stop you. As someone who shoots regularly I can assure you moving targets are not easy.

Second, is you never have to reload a knife. When a gun runs out of ammo you have to stop and reload... giving your quarry time to get away or mount a counter offense. With a knife you can just keep on going.

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3 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

In fact if a person knew how to use a knife one could conceivably kill more with a knife, for 2 reasons. One, is they're quiet. When someone fires a gun, everyone automatically goes into fight or flight turning everyone into a moving target running away from you or trying to stop you. As someone who shoots regularly I can assure you moving targets are not easy.

Second, is you never have to reload a knife. When a gun runs out of ammo you have to stop and reload... giving your quarry time to get away or mount a counter offense. With a knife you can just keep on going.

best bet with a knife if you don't have a gun is to run when you get as old as myself....

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23 minutes ago, other one said:

best bet with a knife if you don't have a gun is to run when you get as old as myself....

I know a few moves, can disarm a novice knife wielder...but like you I'm not sure I'd want to hang around to find out of this was a novice or an expert. Would either run or trust my good ol .40 s&w

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