Just a Mirror Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 237 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/27/1974 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Let me add some numbers which you can do with what you will. Rosh Hoshana = Jewish Religious New Year = Feast of Trumpets = Pentecost 2016-2017 = 1 Rosh Hoshana in September 2017, 21-22, Th-Fr 2017-2018= 2 Rosh Hoshana in September 2018, 10-11, Mon-Tue 2018- 2019= 3 Rosh Hoshana in September/Oct 2019, 30-01, Mon-Tue March 26th 2020= 3.5; right after next election and inauguration in US. 2019-2020= 4 Rosh Hoshana in September 2020, 19-20, Sat-Sun 2020- 2021= 5 Rosh Hoshana in September 2021, 7-8, Tue-Wed 2021-2022= 6 Rosh Hoshana in September 2022, 26-27, Mon-Tue 2022-2023= 7 Rosh Hoshana in September 2023, 16-17, Sat-Sun 2024 Rosh Hoshana switches to Oct. DISCLAIMER: READING BELOW THIS LINE REQUIRES AN OPEN MIND TO CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will state here that the Rapture will happen, the catching up to be with Yeshua, will happen at the end of the 7 years. These things will happen before that day...... The Seals are the Seals of Time. The Times, Time, and half a time. Time is 7000yrs Times is two 3500yr periods 1/2 time is 1250 yrs But each Times is divided again, making it into its own week of 7 times, or one of the 3500yrs TIME is divided by 7 TIMES. Therefore The 3500yr TIMES, turns into its own TIME or it becomes its own week. It becomes its own week of seven 1250yr time periods and soo on each successive division becomes its own week of times. Think of it like a Pyramid, top teer is a 7, next teer is 2 3500 blocks, and soo on which the outside blocks on each teer are cutoff, due to the slope of the pyramid, which we could call mercy, or shortening of time/angling of a square block, cutting off some. Soo if you knew EXACTLY when we exist, knowing that 7000 is the end point, you could know through math the exact date at which past people existed, and also future people through Word and prophecy. Herein lies the problem, there seems to be a discrepancy in years, about 350 years, if we know the 1000 year reign of Christ is 1000 years, but its the last 1000 years, meaning At the end of the last final years their will be an apocalyptic war that ends this CREATION. That means that the 1000 year reign has to start around year 6000, but the Jews claim that this is year 5777, which means that we still have 233 years left before The Tribulation. Because creation has to end at the end of 7000 yrs, therefore the year 6000 has to be the beginning of the Reign of Christ, right? Soo you have two choices... 1- The Jews have time WRONG. 2-OR Mercy and the shortening of All Time, to ease suffering due to Sin puts at 5777. Which means say 5784 is the new 6000th year in the shortened 7000years. 323 years will have been removed from 7000 years due to Gods Mercy on Man. (maybe thats what 322 stands for in the masons?) Know of course you will say that TIME will be shortened IN THE END TIMES. But you must realize that one action by God echoes through all TIME, but also each individual TIME under the original TIME equally, meaning an action taken in say the first time period, will happen in all other time periods at the same exact time. That does not seem like the randomness of the reality we live in, which means variables are present which hinder or further time at , once again at a random time. Randomness is what we can call Chaos. UH-OH, look at that, that means that the fall of Lucifer caused Chaos BACK in to Creation. No Bueno. Therefore that means that before Lucifer's fall, Chaos was held back by The Creators Spirit, which wherever it goes Order is made manifest automatically. You see The Creator is apart of a much larger entity or body of The Unexplainable, for lack of a better word for the Totality of what we refer to as GOD. But back to Chaos, chaos is an act of opposition, to time. Now, when God created everything He created, perceived time was optimal, now since the fall of Lucifer, time has been altered due to an influence of the randomness of its presence in the system. Soo that means that God has to (in our perception) intervene in our lives through angels and faith in order to restore balance to Time. Which when it happens in our lives, its manifests as Love, Joy, Peace. Which when multiple people bring order into their lives, they reconcile time, and perfect time is where God resides. Those people make up The Time Keepers, The People, The Church, The Believers, we reside with God in His Time. You See? Soo Since this Creation has been corrupted by Chaos, this Creation will pass away, and be left desolate of The Presence forever. A New Creation will be started, you might look at it as moving into a new pool, a fresh start, what happens there is unknown. Back to my original point, when are we in Time? We are, where prophetic events say we are. We are strengthened by fulfillment of Prophecy even though we already believe. Soo if you want to know where we are in prophecy look around the world and match up the Signs with the Word. Then take the Word placement to work out the Time you are in and how close to the next Sign and ultimately His return. Leading to a Sequence of Operation, which tells you the Order of signs you will see in front of you. The Seals. They are Seals of Time, Each Seal is a quantity of Time. But also divided down they are seals of a small number of years, which in the bible are supposed to be 7. Yet it seems when you get to the Trumpets people seem to think they happen over the course of 7 years. which means We are not even close to the 5th trumpet soo you can stop with CERN opening a passage to the Bottomless pit, unless of course you see grass outside, which means the 1st trumpet has yet to sound. Soo you read through the chronological order of Signs and Yeshua returns AFTER the anti-christ and false prophet are already ruling earth. Basically Christ Returns to wipe out the World System and its leaders and its followers. That means What? That means The Reaping happens the same day, right before The Wrath starts. The WRATH of God is what we're saved from, not the Anti-Christ. The wedding supper of the Lamb constitutes The fulfillment of the number of the Martyrs, not a "raptured" Church. (9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.) You see When the 5th seal was removed the Martyrs of old were there, waiting on the Martyrs to come out of the Tribulation. The seals are Periods of Time, In the 5th Seal of time the Martyrs are revealed to be waiting for more martyrs. But you may say "the one who restrains must be removed..." Short answer, Michael is the one who restrains, Daniel tells us so. (Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.) Soo as we can see a resurrection takes place, but it does not speak of the living, but we assume that this reference is the Return of Christ, which is the beginning of Wrath. Soo Michael stands up because he no longer needs to protect the people because those people, Gods people, have been removed. All the Scriptures point to The anti-christs rule as pre-Wrath, its called The Tribulation of the Saints, not the tribulation of Lucifer. This period of time will see Believers of Christ martyred on a mass scale. If you somehow make it through, you will then be Taken up right before God wipes out everyone "Left Behind". The reason for the confusion is due to faulty teachers who have passed on a faulty teaching for soo long it seems to just be a fact now. Let me add this though, people INNOCENTLY believe, because it feels good, not because its true. Now let me add this..... Matthew 5: 19 "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." I am not breaking any commandments for teaching these things and you are not for believing what you do, but the Word reveals Order. I hope I have Given you something to think on. Acts 17:10 "And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. " God bless you and reveal to you the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 Are We In Year One Of The Final Week? Definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Mirror Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 237 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/27/1974 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ezra said: Are We In Year One Of The Final Week? Definitely not. lol, always the detailed responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 227 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm not a "rapture" fan, however: The current Jewish year is 5777, however even according to the Rabbis this is wrong, (it was changed to make Simon bar Kokhba Messiah, but that's another story) the correct year is 5992. The Rabbis have said there will be 2000 years of chaos, 2000 years of Law, 2000 years of Messiah then a 1000 year Sabbath. There are only certain windows of time when 3.5 years falls exactly on fall feast days (the spring feasts already being fulfilled by Yeshua) the next window starts this year. This year Sept 23 2o17 on the Feast of Trumpets the sign in Revelation 12:1 will happen in the heavens, (only happening every 7000 years) - (worth a google if you haven't heard about it). Count back 7 years for the tribulation (3.5 years peace/ 3.5 years war) from 6000 an it brings us to this year. So yes, I agree, there is a huge possibility this Feast of Trumpets could usher in the latter days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Zach said: So yes, I agree, there is a huge possibility this Feast of Trumpets could usher in the latter days The "latter days" are NOT Daniel's 70th week, since that term covers a large expanse of time and applies to the time BEFORE the Second Coming of Christ. For Daniel's 70th week to begin, the Antichrist must be in full control of this world, and that is yet future. Also, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the New Testament to connect the Feast of Trumpets to the Rapture. Some Bible scholars connect this feast to the regathering of Israel at the Second Coming of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 227 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 58 minutes ago, Ezra said: The "latter days" are NOT Daniel's 70th week, since that term covers a large expanse of time and applies to the time BEFORE the Second Coming of Christ. For Daniel's 70th week to begin, the Antichrist must be in full control of this world, and that is yet future. Also, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the New Testament to connect the Feast of Trumpets to the Rapture. Some Bible scholars connect this feast to the regathering of Israel at the Second Coming of Christ. 1) "USHER IN" the latter days. You are correct in that latter days is longer than 7 years. What I said was the next 7 years could be "ushering" in the latter days. 2) Altough I don't believe in a "rapture", (not denying the possibility) to say there is nothing in the New Testament connecting the ushering in of the latter days with the Feast of Trumpets is false. Jesus himself makes the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Just a Mirror said: DISCLAIMER: READING BELOW THIS LINE REQUIRES AN OPEN MIND TO CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. A lot of people won't live to see tomorrow. Most of them, a big majority, are going to be raised in shame for judgment. A few will be resurrected to eternal life (clear from YHWH'S WORD)... JESUS makes the difference. Ask HIM personally, diligently, fervently. Year one ? Final week ? Remember the tower of Siloam....... Thousands every day find out too late.... Multitudes have been tricked, and 'think' they have it made.... Multitudes of others, most all the population, don't care, and never even think of turning to YHWH for help nor for salvation ..... neighbors, friends, acquaintances, family..... Pray without ceasing. Keep unstained by the world. Keep away from idols. YHWH'S PROMISES of healing and salvation and deliverance are all true. Tell others what JESUS has done for you so they might seek HIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Zach said: Jesus himself makes the connection. Really. Chapter and verse please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 227 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Ezra said: Really. Chapter and verse please. Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) To the op Briefly ........ No one knows when the Lord is going to break in .... this He has not revealed to anyone .... and no one will be able to figure out the dating Here is the way it works: All events of prophecy past fulfilled consummated at the end of the 69th week of the 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel The 70th week decreed is still pending as we speak .... there are no prophetic events on the earth recorded in the visions of the Bible prophets between the ending of the 69th week and the Lord's cutting off ...... and the beginning of the 70th week When the 70th week begins all on the earth will know it without a doubt ..... there will be no guess work This is the time of the Lord's unprecedented wrath and judgment upon an unbelieving world because they have refused to believe the truth about Him Here is the first judgment described just at at the beginning of the period [Revelation 6:12-17; 8:6-12; 14:8; 17:16-18] But just before this is what will be going on [Matthew 24:36-39] Remember this [Acts 1:6-7] Those who attempt to date the Lord's next move will always be wrong He will come as a thief does .... no warning before There is only one thing that indicates an observable setting which must be in place before the 70th week begins ..... a remnant part of Israel returned to the land and and surrounded by the tiny nation's virulent enemies of the populations of the Middle East These enemies are the adherents of Islam today Edited January 6, 2017 by Daniel 11:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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