Are We In Year One Of The Final Week?

[Zach]

20 minutes ago, Ezra said:

No mention of the Feast of Trumpets at all. In fact, no way to determine a precise date according to these Scriptures.

What do you think Yeshua was eluding to when he said "no man knows the day or the hour"? Feast of Trumpets is the ONLY Feast you never know when it starts until it starts, but that doesn't mean you don't know approximately when it is supposed to start.

[HAZARD]

Are We In Year One Of The Final Week?

The Father is the only one who knows the answer to that question;

Matthew 24:3, And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:36, But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father ONLY.

[Just a Mirror]

18 minutes ago, Keras said:

Re the date for Jesus' Return, the Bible does give us all the time periods to enable us to fix the important stages in God's 7000 year Plan for mankind. Also Jesus said in Luke 13:32 about the 2 'days' He would work and then achieve His reward.  Hosea 6:2  A 'day' to the Lord is 1000 years earth time. 2 Peter 3:8

Therefore from the commencement of His Ministry in 29/30 AD, He will Return in 2030. This date is right before the Millennium starts, for all that must happen from now until that glorious Day.  The last 7 years start in 2023

Its interesting, if you read about when the wrath starts, when Yeshua returns, the Vials are poured out over a certain time period.

Yet, it seems that the trumpets, are sounded over a certain time period before Yeshua's return. The Vials specifically mention those with the mark being punished. The Trumpet blasts seem to indicate the period of time just prior to Yeshua's arrival.

Soo, are there three 7 year periods of time?

7 years split into two 3.5 years, then 7 years of Trumpets, then 7 years of wrath.

The reason I say this is because its called the Time of Jacobs Trouble, which if you count the original time of the years of Jacobs trouble, they equal 21 years. Therefore since the end times are referred to as The Time of Jacobs Trouble, it should remain 21 years.

So I will just use some random years OK? In Lunar years.

5777, 5778, 5779, then mid year 5780, the Son of Perdition is revealed.

5780, 5781, 5782, then mid year 5783, the Trumpets start sounding.

Then from mid year 5783-mid year 5789 the Trumpets blow.

Yeshua returns.

Vials poured out mid year 5789-Mid year 5796.

21 years, fulfills The Time of Jacobs Trouble.

Anyone heard of such a timeline before?

[HAZARD]

Are We In Year One Of The Final Week?

The Father is the only one who knows the answer to that question;

Matthew 24:3, And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:36, But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father ONLY.

[Daniel 11:36]

"What do you think Yeshua was eluding to when he said "no man knows the day or the hour"? Feast of Trumpets is the ONLY Feast you never know when it starts until it starts, but that doesn't mean you don't know approximately when it is supposed to start"

 

Jesus said that no man can know the "time"

He is not eluding

I see that you are using the Jewish festival days for attempting to determine the dating of the Lord's return .... are you a messianic Jew, or is your teaching from another source?

These indicators have nothing to do with the dating of the Lord's return to bring His coming tribulation period of the Day of the Lord

Only when the tribulation is over with these things be re-instituted during His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth

Here is an example [Zechariah 14:8-21]

 

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2017 by Daniel 11:36

[Daniel 11:36]

"Anyone heard of such a timeline before?"

 

The idea does not agree with related scripture on the matter

Where did you get this information?

[Keras]

Just a mirror: The Jewish calendar has been proved to be wrong by many scholars. Do not trust it.

We are in fact in the 5987.5 th year since Adam was created. There is only 12/13 years of this era left to go.

Which is about right for all that is prophesied to happen before Jesus Returns.

Hazard: are you the Hazarus of other forums? He is an Aussie too.   Yes; we can't know the Day or the hour. Would it be a sin to know the month and year?

[Daniel 11:36]

No man can know the time of the Lord's coming visitation [1 Corinthians 15:51-52]

..... second, minute, hour, day, month, year, etc

Many have and do attempt to figure this out by various means

Those who have are always wrong .... those who do will be the same

This behavior should not be committed because many who buy in will be effected when this kind of prediction fails to come to pass

Example: the great disappointment of the SDA "church", you can find out about this tragedy on the Internet

The Lord has hidden the dating of His return so that no man an find it

When those who do predict and are found out to be wrong, these will almost always adjust with some other falsehood .... do not follow them because they have ulterior motives

 Acts [1:6-7]

Instead the Lord admonishes people to always be saved and ready [Matthew 25:1-13] 

Edited January 7, 2017 by Daniel 11:36

[Keras]

Sure, Daniel, we are saved and ready, that's a given.

The Words of Jesus were; Yet about that Day and hour no man knows....,only the Father.  As I say above, simple addition of time periods as given in the Bible allows us to see how God's 7000 year Plan has and will work out. I post it below, but I have found that some people are unable to understand it. An open mind and prayer is required.

7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

 

Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE

Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10

Our year 2314.5 BCE

 Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18  Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE   He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4                              Total years so far = 2000

 

Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8

Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE. [Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1-3 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:1-2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:32 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:1-2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1-2 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 22:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year 586 BCE.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1  Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.  

                          3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years.

 

January 2017 CE - 29.5 CE = 1987.5 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry.

1987.5 + 4000 = 5987.5 years, is where we are now. 5987.5 + 12.5 = 6000 years

2017 CE + 12.5 = 2029.5 CE  Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age.  4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam, next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus.

7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.

Those who have been found worthy will go into eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5

 

Just to clarify; the date of 2030 is the Return of Jesus, much must occur before the glorious Day. The terrible Day of the Lord's wrath, the Sixth seal is next to happen. Which will be the Day that no one knows when it will happen.

Edited January 7, 2017 by Keras

[HAZARD]

23 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"What do you think Yeshua was eluding to when he said "no man knows the day or the hour"? Feast of Trumpets is the ONLY Feast you never know when it starts until it starts, but that doesn't mean you don't know approximately when it is supposed to start"

 

Jesus said that no man can know the "time"

He is not eluding

I see that you are using the Jewish festival days for attempting to determine the dating of the Lord's return .... are you a messianic Jew, or is your teaching from another source?

These indicators have nothing to do with the dating of the Lord's return to bring His coming tribulation period of the Day of the Lord

Only when the tribulation is over with these things be re-instituted during His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth

Here is an example [Zechariah 14:8-21]

 

 

 

 

 

"I see that you are using the Jewish festival days for attempting to determine the dating of the Lord's return."

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You see wrong, I'm not attempting to determine anything, I am reading what Jesus was talking about and I believe what He is saying not what men believe.

The disciples asked Jesus when shall these things occur?

 Matt. 24:3, And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

Jesus told the disciples about the last days and the coming of the Antichrist and great tribulation, He was not talking about Jewish feast days or festivals.

Read the chapter and see;

Matthew 24:4, And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5, For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    6, And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    7, For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
    8, All these are the beginning of sorrows.
    9, Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
    10, And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
    11, And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    12, And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
    13, But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
    14, And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    15, When ye therefore shall see THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL, stand in the holy place,  (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    16, Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
    17, Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    18, Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    19, And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    20, But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    21, For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, NO, NOR EVER SHALL BE. 
    22, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Down to verse 36, But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.