Paper mache Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 124 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 147 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 I know that premarital sex is definitely a no-no. But - and I'm just going to get to the point, here - I have a boyfriend. We're both devout Christians. We're young (teens). We've been dating for over two years. And we've kissed. We've cuddled. We hold hands all the time. Is that bad? When he first kissed me, I thought nothing of it. When we first cuddled, I thought nothing of it. When he held my hand for the first time (the third day we were dating) I thought nothing of it. But, very recently, I got a small thought in the back of my head. What if this stuff is all against God's Law, too? I understand that these things can lead to sexual desire, which can lead to sexual immorality, and the Bible says to "flee from sexual immorality." I'm going to admit, although we haven't done the 's-word', we have kissed a couple times that could have lead to it... and I'm planning on putting a stop to that. No more. But what about "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands"? Are those against God's Law, too? If they are, well then I'll have a hard time breaking the news to my boyfriend and stopping, but I'll end up breaking it to him and quitting it anyways, due to conviction. Since I actually feel a bit of conviction about this now, I'm assuming that means it is wrong and we should stop, and God's trying to tell me that. but, I would still like to hear what you guys have to say about this. And, if it's not too much to ask, please pray for me as well. Because it's going to be hard, breaking it to my boyfriend, and even stopping myself. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,224 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,647 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 I don't believe that it is wrong to hold hands, at least not in our culture. Our youth pastor said that he and his wife had agreed to only hold hands till after they were married. Another safety net might be to stay in a group of Christians and interact with others when you are together. You can be more personal on the phone or in emails (as long as there is distance between you), like making future plans or talking about your likes and dislikes, praying together, or just visiting and being friends. The physical distance helps to prevent impulsive actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Brittany said: I know that premarital sex is definitely a no-no. But - and I'm just going to get to the point, here - I have a boyfriend. We're both devout Christians. We're young (teens). We've been dating for over two years. And we've kissed. We've cuddled. We hold hands all the time. Is that bad? When he first kissed me, I thought nothing of it. When we first cuddled, I thought nothing of it. When he held my hand for the first time (the third day we were dating) I thought nothing of it. But, very recently, I got a small thought in the back of my head. What if this stuff is all against God's Law, too? I understand that these things can lead to sexual desire, which can lead to sexual immorality, and the Bible says to "flee from sexual immorality." I'm going to admit, although we haven't done the 's-word', we have kissed a couple times that could have lead to it... and I'm planning on putting a stop to that. No more. But what about "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands"? Are those against God's Law, too? If they are, well then I'll have a hard time breaking the news to my boyfriend and stopping, but I'll end up breaking it to him and quitting it anyways, due to conviction. Since I actually feel a bit of conviction about this now, I'm assuming that means it is wrong and we should stop, and God's trying to tell me that. but, I would still like to hear what you guys have to say about this. And, if it's not too much to ask, please pray for me as well. Because it's going to be hard, breaking it to my boyfriend, and even stopping myself. Thanks! Are you talking 13,14,15?It all depends on what kind of kissing you are talking about. "Making out" can lead to more intimate things. Holding hands is ok. Being left alone is also not a good idea. Way back a long, long time ago when a woman had to have a chaperone really was not a bad idea. If your boyfriend loves you and is a Christian and if he respects you he will not want to have sex outside of marriage. You also have to have enough self respect to put a stop to anything intimate that happens between you. Ask God to guide you and your boyfriend in your relationship and ask for wisdom and courage and that your relationship be pleasing to Jesus Christ. I will pray for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted January 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi Brittany? I don't want to sound like a puritan, but even things as "harmless" as cuddling and kissing, are in fact part of "sexual intimacy" between a married couple. Skin to skin contact (even holding hands), can make you want to touch more - and as a teen, unless you are made of stone, it's too tempting. Twenty years ago, I may have answered differently but today (older and wiser hopefully), this is what I pass on now. Hope this has helped? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted January 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2017 On 6/01/2017 at 2:35 PM, Brittany said: I know that premarital sex is definitely a no-no. But - and I'm just going to get to the point, here - I have a boyfriend. We're both devout Christians. We're young (teens). We've been dating for over two years. And we've kissed. We've cuddled. We hold hands all the time. Is that bad? When he first kissed me, I thought nothing of it. When we first cuddled, I thought nothing of it. When he held my hand for the first time (the third day we were dating) I thought nothing of it. But, very recently, I got a small thought in the back of my head. What if this stuff is all against God's Law, too? I understand that these things can lead to sexual desire, which can lead to sexual immorality, and the Bible says to "flee from sexual immorality." I'm going to admit, although we haven't done the 's-word', we have kissed a couple times that could have lead to it... and I'm planning on putting a stop to that. No more. But what about "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands"? Are those against God's Law, too? If they are, well then I'll have a hard time breaking the news to my boyfriend and stopping, but I'll end up breaking it to him and quitting it anyways, due to conviction. Since I actually feel a bit of conviction about this now, I'm assuming that means it is wrong and we should stop, and God's trying to tell me that. but, I would still like to hear what you guys have to say about this. And, if it's not too much to ask, please pray for me as well. Because it's going to be hard, breaking it to my boyfriend, and even stopping myself. Thanks! Matt. 19:5, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Mark 10:6-7, V. 6, But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. V. 7, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife Ephesians 5:31, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Where there is no sin, there is no shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 10:17 PM, Willa said: I don't believe that it is wrong to hold hands, at least not in our culture. Our youth pastor said that he and his wife had agreed to only hold hands till after they were married. Another safety net might be to stay in a group of Christians and interact with others when you are together. You can be more personal on the phone or in emails (as long as there is distance between you), like making future plans or talking about your likes and dislikes, praying together, or just visiting and being friends. The physical distance helps to prevent impulsive actions. That is a great idea Willa. Things can spiral very quickly and you need to be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Dear sister Brittany, Grace and mercy and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. First of all, I agree with everything the sister HisFirst said. On 1/9/2017 at 2:05 AM, HisFirst said: Hi Brittany? I don't want to sound like a puritan, but even things as "harmless" as cuddling and kissing, are in fact part of "sexual intimacy" between a married couple. Skin to skin contact (even holding hands), can make you want to touch more - and as a teen, unless you are made of stone, it's too tempting. Twenty years ago, I may have answered differently but today (older and wiser hopefully), this is what I pass on now. Hope this has helped? I agree also with the suggestion that the sister Willa gave. On 1/6/2017 at 2:17 AM, Willa said: Another safety net might be to stay in a group of Christians and interact with others when you are together. You can be more personal on the phone or in emails (as long as there is distance between you), like making future plans or talking about your likes and dislikes, praying together, or just visiting and being friends. The physical distance helps to prevent impulsive actions. On 1/10/2017 at 1:50 AM, RustyAngeL said: That is a great idea Willa. Things can spiral very quickly and you need to be careful. This recalls the relationship between Joseph and Mary: · “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: and knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.” (Matthew 1.18-25). Notice how throughout the engagement phase, there was no intimate contact between Mary and Joseph. On 1/6/2017 at 1:35 AM, Brittany said: But what about "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands"? Are those against God's Law, too? Therefore, "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands" is unacceptable to someone who wants a really healthy home. Be concerned only with how to please Jesus (1 Corinthians 7:29-35), hear His voice, expect Him to reveal to you His good, pleasing and perfect will (Romans 12: 2) and, finally, lead you to the person which He has specially prepared for you. Playing with sin is like walking on the tightrope or on the edge of a cliff. We can never think that we are immune enough to sin. See the serious warnings of the Holy Scripture about this: · “Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.” (Proverbs 4.23). · “Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.” (1Corinthians 10.12). · “For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.” (Galatians 5.13). · “Neither give place to the devil.” (Ephesians 4.27). · “Abstain from all appearance of evil.” (1Thessalonians 5.22). We cannot even trust ourselves. At any moment we can be betrayed by our evil and deceitful heart: · “Thus saith the LORD; cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17.5-9). We are arrested just when we allow ourselves to be enveloped by our cunning: · “Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.” (1Corinthians 6.15,16). · “Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.” (Ecclesiastes 7.29). May Jesus help you not to turn away from the holy commandment that was given you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,065 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,395 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 9:35 PM, Brittany said: I know that premarital sex is definitely a no-no. But - and I'm just going to get to the point, here - I have a boyfriend. We're both devout Christians. We're young (teens). We've been dating for over two years. And we've kissed. We've cuddled. We hold hands all the time. Is that bad? When he first kissed me, I thought nothing of it. When we first cuddled, I thought nothing of it. When he held my hand for the first time (the third day we were dating) I thought nothing of it. But, very recently, I got a small thought in the back of my head. What if this stuff is all against God's Law, too? I understand that these things can lead to sexual desire, which can lead to sexual immorality, and the Bible says to "flee from sexual immorality." I'm going to admit, although we haven't done the 's-word', we have kissed a couple times that could have lead to it... and I'm planning on putting a stop to that. No more. But what about "Just kissing" or "just cuddling" or even "just holding hands"? Are those against God's Law, too? If they are, well then I'll have a hard time breaking the news to my boyfriend and stopping, but I'll end up breaking it to him and quitting it anyways, due to conviction. Matthew 7:14 (KJV) [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Since I actually feel a bit of conviction about this now, I'm assuming that means it is wrong and we should stop, and God's trying to tell me that. but, I would still like to hear what you guys have to say about this. And, if it's not too much to ask, please pray for me as well. Because it's going to be hard, breaking it to my boyfriend, and even stopping myself. Thanks! God has warned us 1 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV) [12] Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. As with all Scriptual guidance it is to promote the fruit of The Spirit in daily living... I respect your heart toward God... prayed... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,806 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2017 Quote I understand that these things can lead to sexual desire, which can lead to sexual immorality, and the Bible says to "flee from sexual immorality." Brittany Blessings Brittany...... You have UNDERSTOOD by Wisdom & Understanding of Holy Spirit,Jesus Abides in YOU,in both of you.......keep listening to that STILL SMALL VOICE & keep your eyes on Jesus,He Will NEVER take you down the wrong path!!!!!! I am confident your boyfriend will be Convicted with like MIND & JUDGEMENT in Christ Jesus! Praying with you,well done young Sister! With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 23, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,532 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,027 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) To become a nurse one must get through high school into college whether a specialty college or a four year institution, at a minimum there will be several years ahead of work, hard work. Being encumbered by a/any one boyfriend isn't helpful in that cause. So what is really wanted? The odds of successfully hanging onto a serious male friend for 4 to 6 years while trying to become educated and able to be self fulfilled seems pretty low to me- and not worth the effort for that matter. The pond is full of fish, cast the net where and when our Lord says drop a net right there. It will come up full. The same is true for a male wanting to become a missionary, it will take years of training and great financial sacrifice. There will always be financial hardship ahead, for there is the constant need to be finding financial support for the mission. Trying to start out on that path encumbered by a young woman and perhaps a child or two is a very hard row to hoe. Sorry, but to put it bluntly, I see both of you as being on the wrong path to your stated personal goals. Edited January 23, 2017 by Neighbor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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