WorthyNewsBot Posted January 9, 2017 Group: Bots Followers: 3 Topic Count: 39,879 Topics Per Day: 6.49 Content Count: 44,078 Content Per Day: 7.18 Reputation: 980 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/06/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2017 (Worthy News) - With President-elect Donald Trump demanding more ships, the Navy is proposing the biggest shipbuilding boom since the end of the Cold War to meet threats from a resurgent Russia and saber-rattling China. The Navy's 355-ship proposal released last month is even larger than what the Republican Trump had promoted on the campaign trail, providing a potential boost to shipyards that have struggled because budget caps that have limited money funding for ships. At Maine's Bath Iron Works, workers worried about the future want to build more ships but wonder where the billions of dollars will come from. [ Source ] View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonsister Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 647 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 283 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 Good for him. Downsizing our military was always a bad idea. I hope this does indeed re-energize the steel industry in this country. And of course Bath Iron Works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,872 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,622 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 11 hours ago, soonsister said: Good for him. Downsizing our military was always a bad idea. I hope this does indeed re-energize the steel industry in this country. And of course Bath Iron Works. Sounds good to me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill16652 Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 288 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 312 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 About time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.73 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 It is not enough to spend 35% of the world's total spending on military while having just 4.4% of the world's population and just 16% of the world's GDP? It is not enough to spend more than the next 7 countries combined on our military, we need to offer even more of an offering to the military industrial complex? With the tax cuts of Trump, how are we going to pay for all these things he wants to spend money on? Trump is just your typical republican...tax less and spend more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,872 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,622 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 depends on who and what you are protecting yourself from..... how many enemies you have made and how many fronts you might have to fight at once.... When one has PO'd as many people as we have over the past 25 years, one might want to update his protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 Though some ships will be much more advanced than their predecessors, this is like building a better battle axe or a sharper sword, both from stronger metal. I'd like to see newer technology used, and maybe it will be. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedByGrace1981 Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,923 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/02/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/22/1953 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Back in the 70s when I was in the Navy, we had somewhere around 600 ships. That may sound great - especially compared to the number we have now. But consider - the aircraft carrier I was stationed on - The Franklin D Roosevelt - was at the time 30 years old. It was in bad need of repair; or it needed to be decommissioned. Due to a bent prop shaft (that would have required extensive work to repair), its top speed was less than 30 knots. Now for those who do not know, launching F-4 Phantom fighter jets (the standard fighter at the time) off a carrier deck requires a 30 plus knot wind. Otherwise, into the drink. Thus - on a day with at least a 5 knot wind, the carrier would 'turn into the wind'. Combining the carrier's speed with the wind speed gave the required lift for successful launches. The problem occurred on calm days with no wind. Then, launching F-4's (our first response to possible Soviet attacks during the Cold War) would be impossible. I always wondered if the Soviets knew this? (in case anyone's concerned, this was back in the 70s. The FDR has long been decommissioned.) I point this out just to say that it's the quality of the ships that the navy has that is more important than the number. The ships of today vs. 20 or 30 years ago also tend to serve more than one function. Therefore one ship may be able to perform the duties of two. I am certainly not an expert on what is the ideal number of ships. I just hope that such experts exist, and that Trump and his advisers listen to them. I don't think increasing the number of ships just for the sake of doing so is necessarily a prudent use of taxpayer resources. Blessings, -Ed Edited January 11, 2017 by SavedByGrace1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 I was on the USS Intrepid in the early 70's and we were constantly pumping out water from a hurricane the ship went through during WW II. It's now a museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: It is not enough to spend 35% of the world's total spending on military while having just 4.4% of the world's population and just 16% of the world's GDP? It is not enough to spend more than the next 7 countries combined on our military, we need to offer even more of an offering to the military industrial complex? With the tax cuts of Trump, how are we going to pay for all these things he wants to spend money on? Trump is just your typical republican...tax less and spend more. That was my thoughts exactly. Who is paying for all of this? Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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