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Just now, missmuffet said:

Don't you think our taxes are high enough as it is? I wonder what God has to say about sharing America with others as long as they do not violate or damage America?

Why would taxes have to be raised?   Just redirect what we're already spending. 

Why would we share our land with those who hate us and want to supplant our Constitution and our laws with Sharia?   These are not refugees or immigrants; they are invaders.   They are not coming here to be Americans, and have no intention of assimilating.  Look at what they do to Europe.  Is that what you want here?

We are not expected to give our enemies our necks to slice in the name of charity. 

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3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Why would taxes have to be raised?   Just redirect what we're already spending. 

Why would we share our land with those who hate us and want to supplant our Constitution and our laws with Sharia?   These are not refugees or immigrants; they are invaders.   They are not coming here to be Americans, and have no intention of assimilating.  Look at what they do to Europe.  Is that what you want here?

We are not expected to give our enemies our necks to slice in the name of charity. 

Why share our land? If they are not out to do harm I can see this:

Question: "How should a Christian respond to illegal aliens/illegal immigrants?"

Answer:
Illegal immigration has become a volatile issue, especially in the U.S. Many have raised their voices passionately in their condemnation of illegal immigration, while others defend it just as fervently. The issues raised by the presence of illegal immigrants have generated heated debate among politicians, educators, co-workers, families, and friends. Sadly enough, the church has been drawn into the fray over illegal aliens as well, with Christians on both sides seeking to justify their positions based on their own personal beliefs.

So, what does the Bible say about those who enter a country illegally? What should be the Christian response to illegal aliens or illegal immigrants and toward those who condone illegal immigration? The first consideration is the law of the land. Those who illegally enter any country violate that nation’s laws as well as the laws of God. Believers are torn between showing compassion and mercy to the illegal aliens who seek help and not wanting to violate God’s word.

Sadly, we have brothers and sisters in Christ fighting over the issue of illegal immigration when the Bible is quite clear on what the Christian response should be: “The LORD detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness” (Proverbs 15:9; see also 28:5; Psalm 5:4–5). When we condone criminal activity, we no longer “shine like stars in the universe” (Philippians 2:15). The Bible makes it clear that those who violate laws are sinning, as are those who support or assist them in breaking the laws (Romans 13:1–7; 1 Peter 2:13–14; Titus 3:1–2). This principle applies to illegal immigrants and those who condone their continued violation of the law.

Peter’s reference to “those who do wrong” in 1 Peter 2:14 refers to lawbreakers. These are to be punished by the governing authorities. In Romans 13 Paul says that the government is in the best position to judge wrongdoers and find solutions to the problem of lawlessness. Government has the divine authority to deal with illegal immigrants who refuse to comply with the laws of the land. Now, the government authorities may or may not exercise their legal and divine right to enforce the laws, but that doesn’t change the fact that the church should not knowingly support illegal activity. To aid and abet illegal aliens—people who cross borders illegally—is sin. Regardless of emotional appeals and mitigating circumstances, the initial act of coming into a country illegally is sin.

At the same time, as Christians, we have to separate our attitude toward the act of entering the country illegally from our attitude toward illegal immigrants themselves. Illegal aliens are individuals for whom Jesus died. The first obligation of a Christian is to express Christlikeness in all our thoughts, words, and deeds (Romans 8:29). There is no room for hatred toward illegal aliens who seek work, refuge from danger and persecution, or a better life for themselves and their families. Christian compassion must be shown toward those who would risk their lives in a dangerous attempt to cross a border. Acts of hatred or violence toward illegal immigrants are never to be tolerated by those who name the name of Christ.

https://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-aliens-immigrants.html

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Just now, missmuffet said:

Why share our land? If they are not out to do harm I can see this:

 

They are not immigrants.  They are invaders.  They have already shown us what they intend to do to us.  We have seen it done to Europe.  In one year over 2,000 women were raped.   There was a media  blackout in the US, of all of the sexual assaults and molestations taking place in Germany after they foolishly let these men into their nation.   Women were  and are constantly assaulted, stalked harassed and even young children were not safe.  And that's not including what happened to the women in Sweden and the problems they have with these invaders.

Is that what you want to come over here?   They are fully intending to do us harm.   We should not be sharing our land and putting our women and children at risk.   It is the height of irresponsibility and naivete to think that we somehow owe them our country.   Living in this country is a privilege not a right.  And it is not a privilege we owe them or anyone else.

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2 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

They are not immigrants.  They are invaders.  They have already shown us what they intend to do to us.  We have seen it done to Europe.  In one year over 2,000 women were raped.   There was a media  blackout in the US, of all of the sexual assaults and molestations taking place in Germany after they foolishly let these men into their nation.   Women were  and are constantly assaulted, stalked harassed and even young children were not safe.  And that's not including what happened to the women in Sweden and the problems they have with these invaders.

Is that what you want to come over here?   They are fully intending to do us harm.   We should not be sharing our land and putting our women and children at risk.   It is the height of irresponsibility and naivete to think that we somehow owe them our country.   Living in this country is a privilege not a right.  And it is not a privilege we owe them or anyone else.

I am sure not all of them wish to do us harm.

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Just now, missmuffet said:

I am sure not all of them wish to do us harm.

So we should let them all in since we don't know which ones are?    If I handed you a bowl of Peanut M&Ms and told you that three of them were poisoned, would you eat from that bowl, or let your child or grandchild eat from that bowl?

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5 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

So we should let them all in since we don't know which ones are?    If I handed you a bowl of Peanut M&Ms and told you that three of them were poisoned, would you eat from that bowl, or let your child or grandchild eat from that bowl?

Is there no way for the United States to do strict background checks? Being here illegally is a whole different ballgame. I am not for that.

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30 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said:

This is the problem, Trump is going to lower them, lower our revenue while spending even more money, which is the Republican way. 

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29 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said:

This is the problem, Trump is going to lower them, lower our revenue while spending even more money, which is the Republican way. 

Well, if they do repeal obamacare early this year, that's 110 billion out of the budget. If they replace it with something that costs half it'd be 55 billion, but i doubt the replacement plan will cost that much.

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16 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Is there no way for the United States to do strict background checks? Being here illegally is a whole different ballgame. I am not for that.

There are no databases in Syria to use for background checks.

But more to the point,  Rape and child molestation are part of Islamic culture.   We had a Green Beret up for court marshal because he saved a little boy from being raped by Afghan soldiers after he reported what they were doing and was told by his superiors to not to intervene for cultural reasons.  You  can Google Sgt. Mertland's story.    That is what you don't here from the liberal media.

These refugees are most young men from the ages of 18-40, fighting age.  They come over here with Smart Phones and designer jeans.  They are not refugees and they are not legal aliens.

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Yep, pull all the money that s going to aid countries who really don't need it, the should be limits on aid since we seen to give more than everyone anyway.   

Build that wall!

Politicians should not be in the business of making money when they serving.. Drop their pay! Line by line deleting needs to be done starting with planned Parenthood, bring back the true USA history in schools with God and common sense, Todd out the garbage called common core!.

Rant over 😊

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