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God cant fix everything.

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It sounds like you're assuming because something ISN'T fixed that it CAN'T BE fixed. But that's not logical. That's the same line of false pseudo-logic that atheists use, I.E. If God exists and is all powerful, then he could stop evil, and there is evil, therefore God either must not exist or he must not be all powerful.

This is the problem with the health and wealth gospel. If you just believe strongly enough, if you truly love God, you can just believe and pray your way into (financial and health) prosperity. Following that train of logic, anyone suffering must not believe strongly enough, must not be a true follower of Christ, etc. Poverty and strife have to be looked at as symptoms of sin or unbelief in a person's life.

It reminds me of the blind man that Jesus healed:

"As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3 Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” -- John 9:1-5

Have you asked God what he might be trying to teach you in your troubled times? Have you asked Him to take away your burdens only on HIS timetable? Have you asked Him to strengthen you and help you endure for as long as He desires? Have you asked Him to use your troubles and suffering to help others in some way, even if you can't see it or understand how until the day you reach heaven? Even when heading to a day of unthinkable suffering and, ultimately, death, Jesus provided the example:

"And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” -- Matthew 26:39

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You're all being kind beyond words. I thank you for this.

I'm starting a new thread. This thread topic, upon reflection...is but a bump in my road. I am focusing on the wrong things.

 

Give me a moment

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Sight,

I know that you are very frustrated in your faith from your post. You have very low expectations of other Christians and even God. However, you have not carefully read the Bible because the only one who CAN fix everything is God. You are factually correct when you state that you cannot fix your past. When I think about my "unfixable" past, there is much pain, guilt and sin hidden there. But since God stands outside of time, He is able to go to  my past, highlight what needs to be dealt with, and by His Holy Spirit, show me what I need to repent of....forgive...allow Him to heal.

If the past stayed in the past, none of us would have problems. But the secret is, that when we sinned in the past; made mistakes; issued wrong judgements, we scarred our souls and those scars stay put until we allow God to deal with them....even if it's 50 years later. So, as we proceed through life, we carry an increasing burden of pain, guilt, etc. because "time does NOT heal all wounds". That is not in the Bible.

If we come to God, generally with someone to help us, and "go back" in time by allowing God to deal with our hurtful past, He does a healing work of grace. He "fixes" the past by healing the pain of the lies we believed; forgiving the sins we committed; illustrating to us exactly where He was during those times. Because the one thing God CANNOT do, according to Scripture, is lie. Since God is sovereign, and since He loves us so much, He has the capacity and willingness to heal our past. No, He does not allow us to change it; but I have watched many people in a prayer/healing session, be freed of years of pain, sorrow and guilt by allowing God to take their burdens from them.

I do not disagree that you are angry and in very much pain as a result of your past. Your pain is manifesting in the present and it is warping your present to the point even you admit you could fall away. There is no need for that. Finding someone to pray with you who knows how to take you through a healing session would provide you with so much peace.

I will pray for you and hope that the Holy Spirit leads you to a place of peace and healing.

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are you judging God by your own standards?

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On 1/10/2017 at 5:59 PM, Sight said:

(I speak of this, not as a flesh-dominated angry heathen, but as someone who walks in the spirit, and focuses on the spirit)

 

Many personal and public victories occur when a person walks with Jesus, in the Holy spirit. I know I have seen and experienced awesome transitions JUST THIS PAST YEAR in my own development. As a person, most of my posts here were done in the flesh, angry at life, and circumstances.

 

95% of my 'problems' are fixed when I focus on walking in the spirit rather than responding in the flesh. We are our spirit, not our flesh; the ownership of that belief transforms most people's Christian walks.

 

Everything about you makes sense when you realize you are a spiritual creature, not a fleshly one. Scripture speaks louder and makes more sense. The world changes (or at least your worldview). Life begins to take a new turn.

 

 

...but in the time I have witnessed these changes, there is one thing GOD CANNOT DO. There is one thing Jesus is incapable of doing through his cross...there is one thing Christianity fails in...

 

You cannot change the past.

 

And, you cannot change people's past perceptions about you, even though God could be united among us.

And, you cant go back and fix your mistakes.

 

So the congregation says God is good. Perhaps, to some.

But what of those who have lost? Who have suffered in the past? Who have been hurt? Abused? Molested? killed? Impoverished? Imprisoned? How do you justify yourselves to these who have been hurt? 

 

I know Christians who have GOOD things happen to them all the time. Prestige. Power. Influence. Friends. Loved ones. Blessings. Peace...

 

But more people suffer, and I dont care how deep in the spirit you are. I DONT CARE how much scripture you have read. I DONT CARE if you go to Church every sunday and worship. Why do some get less, and some get more.

 

 

But, dont bother answering.

NONE OF YOU can answer that question. You know why? Because there is no answer. God is god, life is life.

 

So here I am, sharing what I've shared with you, just to say this:

 

If I lose everything unjustly, and my worst enemy surpasses me in all areas, I would be likely to reject the faith and become a reprobate occultist into Freemasonry. I know God is good, and he is just, but he cannot heal my past. He cannot restore my relationships.

 

The God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob cannot fix the past. Some of us had a past life of pain, suffering, and agony, and cant do anything about it. What makes God so special that he can RIGHT every WRONG done in the past?

 

I ask this...as a born again Christian who got baptized in the holy spirit, and speaks in tongues.

I know what I'm talking about. I want to see if any of YOU know what you're talking about.

Truth be told, I'm not expecting much.

I will pray for you, since your past troubles you. Healing from your past in JESUS name. Amen.

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Methinks Sight reminds me of another who contended against God....or ended contending against God. His name was Job. He really had reason to bear a grudge against God because God allowed Satan to take everything from him. Why God did that is uncertain. Perhaps it was to so test Job's faith that it could never be tested again. But Job finally came face to face with God and God revealed to Job the sinfulness of his own heart.  And Job repented. And then God did an interesting thing....He restored Job to a multiple of his former wealth and position. He even gave him a new family. Why? Because Job learned that no matter what happens here on earth, we must give glory and honor to Him.

I am getting to be an old man. I have seen many things and I have done many things. The worst years of my life were those spent in jealousy of the God's blessing of others and being mad at God because I thought He did not bless me. In truth, He did not bless me like I WANTED; I interpreted that to be that He did not bless me nor did He care for me.....lies. Our biggest problem, as Christians, is that we allow little lies about God to infiltrate our thinking until they overwhelm our mind and then it is all God's fault. It is NEVER God's fault.

As to fixing the past, no God does NOT fix the past. In the Minor prophets He is called the Restorer of the Breach. God restores. When God restores, He restores better than new. To say that God cannot fix the past is untrue. God forgives our past sins and makes them as if they had never occurred spiritually. In other ways there may be consequences but when He forgives there is no longer any judgment.

Sight reminds me of another angry young man, educated, believing in God. He was knocked off his donkey and blinded. When God restored his sight, he also changed his name....that would be Paul, who went on to become the greatest living missionary in history and wrote almost 2/3 of the New Testament.

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To square omnipotence and the impossibility to do something - anything - is an hard task indeed.

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5 hours ago, Sammaiel said:

To square omnipotence and the impossibility to do something - anything - is an hard task indeed.

Not at all; omnipotence indicates the unlimited power to do things: "all powerful", as in" having all the power to act with". But just because God can do a thing does not follow that He has to.

A lot of folks forget a few things about the Lord-

1) He is THE KING of the universe. That means He is not "beholden" to anyone's requests, but is the one in charge. Sometimes we think that God HAS to "do something" because we asked, but we need to remember that if it is something that is asked for the wrong reasons (James 4:3)  or not according to His will (1 John 5:14), God is not going to do it. He's not a "cosmic vending machine of spiritual goodies"; He's the RULER of the Universe.

2) He knows better than we do: in creating Humans on Earth, God demonstrated that shaping flesh is one thing. But shaping the soul for eternity requires a different approach if free will and the ability to truly love God is to be preserved. Real love cannot be forced, otherwise it  is the same as "ordering" your child to say "I love you"; they may not mean it! And with that in mind, those who are not saved are being drawn by the Lord to come to him, without violating their ability to chose freely.  For those of us who are saved, we go through tests and trials designed to shape and refine us.

3) God is not going to violate His character in doing something that is not in His nature. Since the universe is built upon God's attributes, what is good is defined by what is in GOd's perfect nature. Evil is the opposite. This means God CANNOT become evil, as He would have to stop being God.

That said: being "omnipotent" and "not able to act against His character" are not contradictions. So it's not a hard task; the hard task is trying to run from a God who's provided enough in nature to answer the challenges humans try to ensnare Him with.

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That said: being "omnipotent" and "not able to act against His character" are not contradictions. 


They are indeed. Omnipotence means "everything can be done".
Omnipotence in the limit of your character ( possibilities, options ) is, simply, not omnipotence.

Every single living being could be called "omnipotent in the limits of what its nature allows".


 

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the hard taskis trying to run from a God who's provided enough in nature to answer the challenges humans try to ensnare Him with.


Actually, in my opinion, literally everything in the universe seems to scream "not designed", "not finalistic", therefore "no deity exists" but I have no problem recognizing that, from your viewpoint, it must be different.

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19 hours ago, Sammaiel said:


They are indeed. Omnipotence means "everything can be done".
Omnipotence in the limit of your character ( possibilities, options ) is, simply, not omnipotence.

Every single living being could be called "omnipotent in the limits of what its nature allows".


 


Actually, in my opinion, literally everything in the universe seems to scream "not designed", "not finalistic", therefore "no deity exists" but I have no problem recognizing that, from your viewpoint, it must be different.

1) Last I checked: "Omni" means "all"; "potence" means power.

2)Yes, in your opinion it probably is. But then you have to explain "infinite regression", along with a whole other slew of issues that Atheism and humanism could never fully address.

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