Fran C Posted January 16, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 337 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 214 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, White Rabbitt said: If you all look back at the OP, you'll see the first sentence says, "once upon a time there was a church organization". That is the topic of "what's right and what's wrong". The spider is not the topic. The spider is a character within a story. But the story is about the church organization. Listen to me Rabbit, I'm going to turn this into a serious discussion. I'm very good at that... So...The Spider is YOU. You are new here. You have entered into a building. You are spinning your web. Now, if I only knew what the web represents... The Church... You said the church could represent a lot of different things... Like the YMCA. Okay. So could this Worthy Christian Forum be a church? It IS an organization. We are amongst fellow believers. There are more than 2 gathered here. So is THIS the church to which you are referring? Please advise. (so I could sleep tonight). Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbitt Posted January 16, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 219 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 190 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/31/1950 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Fran C said: Listen to me Rabbit, I'm going to turn this into a serious discussion. I'm very good at that... So...The Spider is YOU. You are new here. You have entered into a building. You are spinning your web. Now, if I only knew what the web represents... The Church... You said the church could represent a lot of different things... Like the YMCA. Okay. So could this Worthy Christian Forum be a church? It IS an organization. We are amongst fellow believers. There are more than 2 gathered here. So is THIS the church to which you are referring? Please advise. (so I could sleep tonight). Fran Dear Fran, you are thinking too much again. You need rest...lots of rest.... http://edguidance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hypnosis.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran C Posted January 16, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 337 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 214 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, White Rabbitt said: Dear Fran, you are thinking too much again. You need rest...lots of rest.... http://edguidance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hypnosis.jpg OK. I'll rest, but am I right?? BTW, Did you mean this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbitt Posted January 16, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 219 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 190 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/31/1950 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fran C said: OK. I'll rest, but am I right?? BTW, Did you mean this... Why I would never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 16, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 16, 2017 A fly enters the spider's web. What is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.45 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The important thing is not knowing who is right or wrong. To illustrate this, see what happens when there is only physical liberation. At the time King Cyrus issued the decree allowing all Israelites to return to Jerusalem to build the temple (Ezra 1.2.3), only a small part returned. Most preferred to be a slave in Babylon to be free in Jerusalem. And even those who returned, instead of committing themselves to rebuilding the temple and restoring worship, preferred to build their homes and live their selfishness, using the opposition of their opponents (Ezra 4:4) as an excuse to say that the time to build the temple of the Eternal didn’t have arrived (Haggai 1.9). They did not think like David: • "Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed; I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids, until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob.” (Sl 132.3-5). It is quite true that Ha-Satan was opposing Joshua the priest (Zec 3:1). However, what was the use of simply rebuking Ha-Satan when there was no love and zeal for the Eternal in the hearts of the Israelites? Hence the importance of the Eternal Himself to rebuke. The question is not whether or not we have authority, whether we are right or not. Unless the Eternal makes His voice heard, even though the individuals around us seek the Eternal in response to our ministry, they will still be seeking the wrong god (having a wrong view of who Jesus is) or seek Jesus for the wrong motive (as lover of Christ, rather than bride). They will be doing our will, following our God, being our image and likeness rather than knowing the true God, and then following and doing what the Eternal put in their hearts (after the Eternal works His will in their hearts, they will no longer follow an alien god, but Emanuel - Matt 1:23; Phil 2:12-13). Ultimately, the important thing is that people see in us the truth (1 Timothy 3:15), as well as living testimony that it really works. May Jesus use us so that the person can be convinced by the Holy Spirit about the sin of righteousness and judgment (John 16:8), instead of we want to impose our ideas on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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