missmuffet Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 Satan or his demons can not cause an illness.They do not have that much power. Our world is full of bacteria and virus's. That is what causes a physical illness. Plus our organs are subject to illnesses. Our brain, gall bladder, pancreas, liver etc. Also drug abuse can harm these organs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 Again, remember what SCRIPTURE says clearly. Remember JOB. Remember who deceives the whole world - so that sickness is very common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 And, better still, remember who the HEALER is. The same yesterday, today, and forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Satan or his demons can not cause an illness.They do not have that much power. Our world is full of bacteria and virus's. That is what causes a physical illness. Plus our organs are subject to illnesses. Our brain, gall bladder, pancreas, liver etc. Also drug abuse can harm these organs. If you dont believe that satan can cause illnesses then see how The Lord drew them out from ill people.. That should be proof enough.. As well as countless of people, even christians, being set free. How in the world can you as a christian not believe in that demons cant cause an illness? Who taught you that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 And just to say, not every illness is demonic influences. But, as said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said: If you dont believe that satan can cause illnesses then see how The Lord drew them out from ill people.. That should be proof enough.. As well as countless of people, even christians, being set free. How in the world can you as a christian not believe in that demons cant cause an illness? Who taught you that?? That was Jesus not Satan. Satan does not have the power that Jesus has. Believing that Satan can cause an illness is not Biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 37 minutes ago, Heavenunlimited said: If you dont believe that satan can cause illnesses then see how The Lord drew them out from ill people.. That should be proof enough.. As well as countless of people, even christians, being set free. How in the world can you as a christian not believe in that demons cant cause an illness? Who taught you that?? JESUS , *** AND ***, JESUS' disciples went about HEALING THE SICK, and CASTING OUT DEMONS everywhere, everywhere, everywhere they went (go). Nothing has changed since the NEW TESTAMENT was written in this regard. Just there a lot of people who don't believe JESUS can still heal people, nor cast out demons. The devil has deceived the whole world , as written in YHWH'S WORD (THE BIBLE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: That was Jesus not Satan. Satan does not have the power that Jesus has. Believing that Satan can cause an illness is not Biblical. then why was job afflicted by satan if he can't cause illness Job 2:4-7 And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. 7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and afflicted Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. Here's a few more scriptures where it's a demon associated with the disease Luke 13:11 “and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. Luke 13:16 “Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?" (Christ proclaims deliverance from these diseases caused by the evil one) Matthew 17:15-18 “Lord, have mercy on my son,” he said. “He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. 16 I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him.” 17 “You unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me.” 18 Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed at that moment. Matt 10:1 “He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.” The power of healing that Christ handed out to his disciples is not only to drive out demons, but also to heal every disease and sickness. Again sickness is closely associated with evil spirits here. Acts 10:37-38That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. This verse couldn’t be clearer: those who were healed from diseases by Christ were under the power of the devil. In other words, the devil had caused these diseases in these people, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, worthy said: then why was job afflicted by satan if he can't cause illness Job 2:4-7 And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. 7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and afflicted Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. Here's a few more scriptures where it's a demon associated with the disease Luke 13:11 “and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. Luke 13:16 “Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?" (Christ proclaims deliverance from these diseases caused by the evil one) Matthew 17:15-18 “Lord, have mercy on my son,” he said. “He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. 16 I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him.” 17 “You unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me.” 18 Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed at that moment. Matt 10:1 “He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.” The power of healing that Christ handed out to his disciples is not only to drive out demons, but also to heal every disease and sickness. Again sickness is closely associated with evil spirits here. Acts 10:37-38That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. This verse couldn’t be clearer: those who were healed from diseases by Christ were under the power of the devil. In other words, the devil had caused these diseases in these people, Job was given the permission to sift Satan for a time by God. Satan did not have that power to sift Job with out God's consent for His Glory. In Job 38:11 God says that He limits the waves of the sea: “This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt.” In the same way, it seems that there are boundaries and rules that Satan must abide by. He can go so far but no farther. As the devil “prowls around like a roaring lion” (1 Peter 5:8), must he stop and ask God’s permission for every step? Or does he only need to ask special permission when he runs into an obstacle to his hatred? There is no real biblical proof either way. Job and Peter were hedged about by the Lord—Satan couldn’t get to them without the Lord’s first removing a measure of His protection. We know that God cares for all of His children, so it is reasonable to assume that God has a measure of protection surrounding each of us. And we know that, ultimately, God controls everything in the universe, including Satan. “In all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). https://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-God-permission.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Job was given the permission to sift Satan for a time by God. Satan did not have that power to sift Job with out God's consent for His Glory. can you rephrase that plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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