kwikphilly Posted February 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2017 Quote Basically, there is no Bible prohibition, to drink alcohol, assuming there is no special vow, like the Nazarites took. There is however, a instruction not to get drunk. Not all Christians however, see this as the case, some think drinking is a sin. To be certain not to create any confusion or stumbling, for those who may not have a clear conscience about it, a loving and spiritually mature Christian, would not post that they are drinkers, especially those in positions of leadership. That would be my take on it. Omegaman Its just like Omegaman said and Gods Word says so too!!! Quote 1 Thessalonians 5:22King James Version (KJV) 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 1 Thess 5:22 Welcome to Worthy FiremanSmitty With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7thseal Posted February 5, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2017 16 hours ago, woundeddog said: I think for any one in any kind of leadership position is a church to drink and post it on facebook is amazingly stupid and selfish on their part-- church leaders should have the wisdom to know that some people struggle with drinking and some are just spiritually adverse to it. My opinion is the leaders that would do that- should not be church leaders--- regular members have less liability "Church" is the body of Christ, "regular members" are still the body of Christ, the same as the leaders. Christ is the head of it all, followers of Christ is just that. But... and that is a big one, we're still stuck in this sinful body until Christ return. Our souls have already been redeemed... just waiting on the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundeddog Posted February 5, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,370 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 1,054 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/18/1868 Share Posted February 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, 7thseal said: "Church" is the body of Christ, "regular members" are still the body of Christ, the same as the leaders. Christ is the head of it all, followers of Christ is just that. But... and that is a big one, we're still stuck in this sinful body until Christ return. Our souls have already been redeemed... just waiting on the body. Leaders- have a greater responsibility to behave in a godly manner- they are given authority, but with that authority comes the caveat that they will be held to a higher standard than the average believers that has not been called to be a leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofonia Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Newbie Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/06/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 I believe it was wrong for them to post it on fbook not taking in consideration how that could of possibly stunted other christians spiritual growth. ( especially christians who may struggle with alcoholism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/4/2017 at 10:19 PM, FiremanSmitty said: That's not the question I had posted, of course it's not wrong, I meant for church staff and leadership out and posting drinking on facebook This is clearly unacceptable, and these people need to be held accountable for making a public display of their foolishness, and bringing shame to Christ. Ideally Christians should not even be using Facebook, since it is generally self-indulgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanSmitty Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 23 hours ago, BK1110 said: Just in-and-of-itself, no, I wouldn't call it a sin. A lot of people struggle with obesity, too, but I doubt we'd be asking if posting a picture of the cheeseburger they're eating is a sin because of people struggling with that problem. Many struggle with greed; should a pastor always make sure his car is at least 10 years old or something, lest a member who has less see his vehicle in the parking lot and feel jealous? I think it could be a sin, depending on the context, what's happening in the photos, etc. But just as a rule, no, I don't think you can call it a sin. A cheeseburger isn't a mind altering substance that can destroy a life in a week's time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanSmitty Posted February 6, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 23 hours ago, kwikphilly said: Its just like Omegaman said and Gods Word says so too!!! Welcome to Worthy FiremanSmitty With love-in Christ,Kwik Thanks Kwik! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No124get1952 Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 159 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/17/1952 Share Posted February 7, 2017 While the Bible has much to say on alcohol, much of it negative, I think the point here is more "avoiding the appearance of evil". Sure, we all have constitutional free speech rights (to include the right to be stupid). But the Bible says "we were bought with a price"...and it cost Jesus His life. So we really don't even belong to ourselves, having become like Paul, a bondservant to Jesus Christ. I think that taking a video of yourself drinking and posting it in a public forum is the appearance of evil because Paul did specifically call us to be separate from the world. If we look exactly like the world, why should they change? Those who have to "gain self esteem" by getting lots of people to "like them" on social media, have a very basic deficiency because they deny the very salvation Jesus purchased for them on the cross. Come on, John 3:16 clearly states, "that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son." If God values each one of us enough to sacrifice His own Son, it is sin bordering on heresy for us to value ourselves any less. God did not send His Son to condemn the world but to save it from eternal death and hell. No matter what our circumstances, He loves us and places great value upon us. Who else in this world places ANY value on us? Whoever you can name, I can prove God loves you more than that. So, no, I don't agree that this is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 2/5/2017 at 1:42 PM, kwikphilly said: Its just like Omegaman said and Gods Word says so too!!! Welcome to Worthy FiremanSmitty With love-in Christ,Kwik I agree with my sister and brother. As believers we are and should be held to higher standards in our lives. No the Bible does not say we can't drink, but to drink and post it on such a place as Facebook I find it distasteful at best. The Bible says we are in the world not of it. Doing this makes us look like we are part of the world. Blessings, RustyAngel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 7, 2017 Blessings FiremanSmitty Well there ya have it!! The Body of Christ is with like mind & judgement,Praise Jesus! With love-in Christ<Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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