Guest shiloh357 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, missmuffet said: Every single one of them is bad? If I gave you a big bowl of peanut M&Ms and told you that 10 of them were poisoned with cyanide, how many of them would you let your children/grandchildren eat out of that bowl?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: If I gave you a big bowl of peanut M&Ms and told you that 10 of them were poisoned with cyanide, how many of them would you let your children/grandchildren eat out of that bowl?? Not a good comparison when it comes to the refugees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Not a good comparison when it comes to the refugees. It is a very good comparison, because the ISIS members are infiltrating and blending in with the "refugees." So you don't know which are which.  So how many of them do you let in, if you don't know which ones are bad? How many ISIS members is it okay to let into our country? Germany welcomed them with open arms and in at least the last year, some 2,000 women were raped. And it is not even clear that all of them that committed those crimes were members of ISIS.  Is that what you want to let into our country? What most people in our country don't understand that is that rape and molestation are normal parts of Islamic culture in Muslim countries. It's why women, not men are executed for being victims of rape.  Child molestation is common over there.  In Germany, they are learning that first hand.  Those "refugees" are brutalizing the German people.  In the Netherlands a woman was arrested for pepper spraying her attacker who was a Muslim refugee. Her attacker went free.   Is that what you want to bring over to this country??  How many "bad" ones does their have to be for it not to be a good idea? How many rape victims would be an acceptable number before we realize that we can't let these people in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: Every single one of them is bad? Doesn't SCRIPTURE say almost all of them are bad ?  It is difficult to find anyone truthful or honest or good anywhere, or someone without bad intentions or bad influence. (as very widely shown by the increase in wickedness in the USA the last 75 years, what with very bad influences and results of people from other countries bringing very anti-Christ religions with them and their families and their communities) .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: It is a very good comparison, because the ISIS members are infiltrating and blending in with the "refugees." So you don't know which are which.  So how many of them do you let in, if you don't know which ones are bad? How many ISIS members is it okay to let into our country? Germany welcomed them with open arms and in at least the last year, some 2,000 women were raped. And it is not even clear that all of them that committed those crimes were members of ISIS.  Is that what you want to let into our country? What most people in our country don't understand that is that rape and molestation are normal parts of Islamic culture in Muslim countries. It's why women, not men are executed for being victims of rape.  Child molestation is common over there.  In Germany, they are learning that first hand.  Those "refugees" are brutalizing the German people.  In the Netherlands a woman was arrested for pepper spraying her attacker who was a Muslim refugee. Her attacker went free.   Is that what you want to bring over to this country??  How many "bad" ones does their have to be for it not to be a good idea? How many rape victims would be an acceptable number before we realize that we can't let these people in?? Yes, the atrocities have been received, welcome with open arms, for all the wrong reasons (political, economic, social, power play, control....) ....  not counting all the religions abominations (and thus YHWH'S curse instead of blessing) that I referred to -- I hadn't even thought of all this crimes and criminal motives and criminal behavior as you detailed..... but it is all true....and worse..! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 43 minutes ago, simplejeff said: Doesn't SCRIPTURE say almost all of them are bad ?  It is difficult to find anyone truthful or honest or good anywhere, or someone without bad intentions or bad influence. (as very widely shown by the increase in wickedness in the USA the last 75 years, what with very bad influences and results of people from other countries bringing very anti-Christ religions with them and their families and their communities) .... I am talking about the refugees that are not going to harm America. Those who are not terrorists. Not all the refugees are terrorists and that is what needs to be sifted out. The good from the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,098 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: I am talking about the refugees that are not going to harm America. Those who are not terrorists. Not all the refugees are terrorists and that is what needs to be sifted out. The good from the bad. right now we have no way of knowing which are which so the President just wants to stop them all for a period of time until we can figure out how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 898 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 537 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) deleted by poster Edited February 16, 2017 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted February 11, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 898 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 537 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Child molestation is common over there.   It also happens in western countries and committed by westerners in foreign countries. An example is one or more countries in southeast asia.    So a question might arise whether or not Asian countries should ban people from western countries including Christians? I don't think banning all westerners is the solution.. but perhaps more background checks could be done by some asian countries on foreigners entering their country? Just a thought. Thanks.  Sorry not meaning to derail thread. But just giving a different point of view. Thanks again.    Edited February 11, 2017 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, just_abc said:  It also happens in western countries and committed by westerners in foreign countries. An example is one or more countries in southeast asia.    So a question might arise whether or not Asian countries should ban people from western countries including Christians? I don't think banning all westerners is the solution.. but perhaps more background checks could be done by some asian countries on foreigners entering their country? Just a thought. Thanks.  Sorry not meaning to derail thread. But just giving a different point of view. Thanks again.    Yes, it happens in western countries, but when it happens over here, it is crime. In Muslim countries, child molestation isn't a crime the way it is in the west. It's part of their culture. The United States military was going to go court-martial a US Army Ranger for intervening and stopping some Afghan soldiers from molesting a boy.  He was ordered originally not to interfere with their cultural practices, he ignored those orders to save the boy.  His name Sgt. Charles Martland, lots of stuff about him, even though his case was ignored by the Mainstream Media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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