Ezra Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: So, you are saying that our military is not a match for the cartels? No, what I saying is that an ongoing war at the border is not conducive to the well-being of lawful citizens. That is what would happen if there is no physical wall. However after the wall is built, posting soldiers along the border wall would definitely be a good idea, since the issue is national security. This changes the whole concept from *civil policing* to *military protection* of the border, and changes the dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 52 minutes ago, Ezra said: No, what I saying is that an ongoing war at the border is not conducive to the well-being of lawful citizens. That is what would happen if there is no physical wall. However after the wall is built, posting soldiers along the border wall would definitely be a good idea, since the issue is national security. This changes the whole concept from *civil policing* to *military protection* of the border, and changes the dynamics. Having the military on the border is legal under our system; I sure hope we don't have to do that though. But, for too many years, our government has allowed Mexico, and others, freedom to do as they please and now the Mexicans feel entitled to come here. Need to change their mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Nevertheless Beloved, It Remains The True.... Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. Psalms 127:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: So, you are saying that our military is not a match for the cartels? What is the point of having a military if you are not going to defend your own country with it? I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Having the military on the border is legal under our system; I sure hope we don't have to do that though. But, for too many years, our government has allowed Mexico, and others, freedom to do as they please and now the Mexicans feel entitled to come here. Need to change their mindset. Having military on the border would be a whole lot cheaper than building a wall. And the money would not be coming out of our pocket for building that wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, missmuffet said: Having military on the border would be a whole lot cheaper than building a wall. And the money would not be coming out of our pocket for building that wall. The money for the wall has already been set aside. We don't necessarily have to raise that much money for building it. It's already there and has been for some time, but none of the previous administrations had the political will to build it. We already spend Billions on border security, so why not make that money actually mean something now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Having the military on the border is legal under our system; I sure hope we don't have to do that though. But, for too many years, our government has allowed Mexico, and others, freedom to do as they please and now the Mexicans feel entitled to come here. Need to change their mindset. We will need some kind of military force along the wall. That's what Israel has to do with their security fence along the west bank. It is well secured due to radar surveillance and military patrols. A mosquito doesn't get through without them noticing. And it has prevented a lot of terrorism and crime, too. Violence and infiltration from the West Bank decreased by 70% in the first year or so, alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 10 hours ago, missmuffet said: And the money would not be coming out of our pocket for building that wall. We should not continue to promote this misconception. The money will be coming from Mexican exports to the USA. Mexico will pay for the that wall one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ezra said: We should not continue to promote this misconception. The money will be coming from Mexican exports to the USA. Mexico will pay for the that wall one way or another. You know, if you tax something being imported into this country, the people in this country end up paying the tax. If company A is taxed extra to bring in things from Mexico, then that cost will be passed on to the consumer. The company/country shipping them is not absorbing the cost, we the people are. This is basic Econ 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: You know, if you tax something being imported into this country, the people in this country end up paying the tax. If company A is taxed extra to bring in things from Mexico, then that cost will be passed on to the consumer. The company/country shipping them is not absorbing the cost, we the people are. This is basic Econ 101. A perfect reason why we need to start building the products we need here. Basic common sense 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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