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How Obama is scheming to sabotage Trump’s presidency


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Just now, other one said:

actually they must prove they are a natural born citizen and a long form birth certificate is usually used to do that....   so I would really disagree..   tax returns are not mandatory and quite frankly have caused people trouble and if I were trump I would not release mine either.   especially as complex as his is.

Presidents releasing tax returns is not mandatory, but it is a longstanding tradition that Trump promised to uphold, and yet he's failed to do so. Releasing birth certificates is not required or a longstanding tradition. 

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I don't know that Obama is anything more than an ideologue who is part of a political establishment that encompasses both Democrats and Republicans. I don't believe he is "directing troops" to move en masse against President Trump, but I think he would serve himself and his legacy better if he went like 'Dubya' did and just kept quiet.

But let's get this straight as well. Trump is no ideologue. He's no Republican, he's no conservative. That, more than anything else I believe, is what has drawn the ire. Not everything has to be a boogeyman.

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5 minutes ago, Tea Ess said:

Presidents releasing tax returns is not mandatory, but it is a longstanding tradition that Trump promised to uphold, and yet he's failed to do so. Releasing birth certificates is not required or a longstanding tradition. 

then how do you suppose a person proves he/she is a natural born citizen without a long form birth certificate.....   I had to produce one for a drivers license in Oklahoma and to get  a passport.   So how would one prove themselves a natural born citizen without one???   Or even a citizen for that matter.

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8 minutes ago, other one said:

then how do you suppose a person proves he/she is a natural born citizen without a long form birth certificate.....   I had to produce one for a drivers license in Oklahoma and to get  a passport.   So how would one prove themselves a natural born citizen without one???   Or even a citizen for that matter.

That's a good question, actually. I don't know exactly how the verification process works. I do know that there's no law or regulation that requires the President or Presidential candidate to release their birth certificate, nor is it customary for Presidents to do so. 

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We need a valid birth certificate for everything, drivers licence, passports etc like you said, but Mr Obama could run for president of the USA without providing a valid birth certificate..interesting.

if he is, in fact, undermining the current President of the USA, the words treason, and seditious libel come to mind...Mr Obama might qualify for those charges if reports are true.

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7 hours ago, other one said:

then how do you suppose a person proves he/she is a natural born citizen without a long form birth certificate.....   I had to produce one for a drivers license in Oklahoma and to get  a passport.   So how would one prove themselves a natural born citizen without one???   Or even a citizen for that matter.

And no doubt that when Obama got his drivers license and passport he had to do the same thing.  I cannot believe even after he is out of office people are still holding on to this fantasy of him not being an American citizen.  Dude, it is time to move on.

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12 hours ago, Tea Ess said:

You're pretty sure? It certainly isn't required for US Presidents to release their birth certificate, though it is customary for them to release their tax returns. 

No, but by law there has to be PROOF that they are eligible to run for presidency. This proof was never requested when it should have been. Tax returns being submitted are not a requirement - there is NO comparison.

Even if somebody commits the crime of tax evasion, it does not make them an illegal immigrant, nor is it an act of treason.

Obama is a crook and even if Trump turns out to be one also that does not automatically let Obama off the hook.

If you can't refute or dispute my points without pointing the finger at somebody else then you've lost the argument!

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13 hours ago, Davida said:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265808/obamas-shadow-presidency-matthew-vadum

Obama’s Shadow Presidency

Well-funded Organizing for Action promises to crack conservative skulls to halt the Trump agenda.

February 15, 2017
Former President Obama is waging war against the Trump administration through his generously funded agitation outfit, Organizing for Action, to defend his monumentally destructive record of failure and violent polarization.

It is a chilling reminder that the increasingly aggressive, in-your-face Left in this country is on the march.

Acclaimed author Paul Sperry writes in the New York Post:

Obama has an army of agitators — numbering more than 30,000 — who will fight his Republican successor at every turn of his historic presidency. And Obama will command them from a bunker less than two miles from the White House.

In what’s shaping up to be a highly unusual post-presidency, Obama isn’t just staying behind in Washington. He’s working behind the scenes to set up what will effectively be a shadow government to not only protect his threatened legacy, but to sabotage the incoming administration and its popular “America First” agenda.

What is Organizing for Action? It is a less violent version of Mussolini's black shirts and Hitler's brown shirts, or of the government-supported goon squads that Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Castro brothers used to harass and intimidate their domestic opponents.

OfA isn't, strictly speaking, a new group. After the 2008 election, the group, then known as Organizing for America, was a phony grassroots campaign run by the Democratic National Committee that sought to replicate the community organizing techniques Obama learned from the teachings of his fellow Chicagoan, Saul Alinsky. OfA was created in large part because the White House could not legally use the 13 million e-mail addresses that the Obama campaign compiled in 2008.

Former U.S. Rep. Bob Edgar (D-Penn.), sounded the alarm about OfA in 2013, suggesting the group was dangerous to democracy. "If President Obama is serious about his often-expressed desire to rein in big money in politics, he should shut down Organizing for Action and disavow any plan to schedule regular meetings with its major donors," he said as president of the left-wing group Common Cause. "Access to the President should never be for sale."

"With its reported promise of quarterly presidential meetings for donors and 'bundlers' who raise $500,000, Organizing For Action apparently intends to extend and deepen the pay-to-play Washington culture that Barack Obama came to prominence pledging to end," Edgar said. "The White House's suggestion this week that this group will somehow be independent is laughable."

But Edgar’s admonitions were ignored and since then Organizing for Action has thrived and grown rich, just like the Obamas.

As FrontPage previously reported, Obama has rented a $5.3 million, 8,200-square-foot, walled mansion in Washington’s Embassy Row that he is using to command his community organizing cadres. Michelle Obama will join the former president there as will the Obama Foundation. To stay on track, Obama wants his former labor secretary, Tom Perez, to win the chairmanship of the DNC in a party election later this month. “It’s time to organize and fight, said Perez who appears to be gaining on frontrunner and jihadist Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.). “We must stand up to protect President Obama’s accomplishments,” adding, “We’re going to build the strongest grassroots organizing force this country has ever seen.”

No ex-president has ever done this before, sticking around the nation’s capital to vex and undermine his successor. Of course, Obama is unlike any president the United States has ever had. Even failed, self-righteous presidents like Jimmy Carter, who has occasionally taken shots at his successors, didn’t stay behind in Washington to obstruct and disrupt the new administration.

Organizing for Action, a 501(c)(4) nonprofit that doesn’t have to disclose its donors, is at the head of Obama’s network of left-wing nonprofit groups. OfA, Sperry warns, has “a growing war chest and more than 250 offices across the country.”

On its website, the group claims that there are “5 million Americans who’ve taken action” with OfA, and that those individuals “are part of a long line of people who stand up and take on the big fights for social justice, basic fairness, equal rights, and expanding opportunity.” Among its key issues are “turning up the heat on climate change deniers,” comprehensive immigration reform (which includes mass amnesty), “telling the stories of the millions who are seeing the life-saving benefits of Obamacare,” fighting for “a woman’s health care” which is “a basic right,” and redistributing wealth from those who earned it to those who didn’t.

OfA communications director Jesse Lehrich told Memphis-based WREG that the “grassroots energy that’s out there right now is palpable.” The group is “constantly hearing from volunteers who are excited to report about events they’re organizing around and all of the new people that want to get involved.”

Organizing for Action is drowning in money, by nonprofit standards.

By the end of 2014, OfA, which was formally incorporated only the year before, had taken in $40.4 million, $26 million of which was raised in 2014, according to the organization’s IRS filings. OfA’s big donors are members of the George Soros-founded Democracy Alliance, a donors’ consortium for left-wing billionaires devoted to radical political change. Among the DA members donating to OfA are: Ryan Smith ($476,260); Marcy Carsey ($250,000); Jon Stryker ($200,000); Paul Boskind ($105,000); Paul Egerman ($100,000); and Nick Hanauer ($50,000).

 

OfA also runs a project called the Community Organizing Institute (COI) which it says partners “with progressive groups and organizations to educate, engage, and collaborate.”

Organizing for Action describes COI in almost lyrical terms:

Building upon the rich history of community organizing in Chicago, the COI is a place to share stories, best practices, and innovations in order to build our community and empower individuals in the fight for change. It is a shared space for organizers, policy makers, advocates, and change-agents to come together for workshops, panel discussions, presentations, trainings, film screenings, and social gatherings—building a strong foundation for partnerships.

Translation: at COI you can learn how to spark riots, get arrested to make a political statement, organize lynch mobs and voter fraud on a massive scale, intimidate and shake down corporations, blackmail lenders, race-bait public officials and businesses into submission, smear and terrorize your opponents, shield illegal aliens from law enforcement, lead squatters to invade foreclosed homes, encourage welfare fraud, and use tax dollars to promote cockamamie social-engineering schemes.

Obama is “intimately involved” in OfA’s operations and issues tweets from the group’s account, Sperry writes. “In fact, he gave marching orders to OFA foot soldiers following Trump’s upset victory.”

“It is fine for everybody to feel stressed, sad, discouraged,” Obama said in a post-election conference call from the White House. “But get over it.” Progressives have to “move forward to protect what we’ve accomplished.”

“Now is the time for some organizing,” he said. “So don’t mope.”

Organizing for Action has been doing anything but moping.

In recent weeks its activists organized marches across the country. Some became riots. After President Trump issued Executive Order 13769 temporarily banning visitors from seven terrorism-plagued Muslim countries, OfA organized “spontaneous” demonstrations at airports.

Obama praised the airport rabble-rousers, saying through a spokesman he was "heartened by the level of engagement taking place in communities around the country."

"Citizens exercising their Constitutional right to assemble, organize and have their voices heard by the elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake."

Reinforcements are coming to beef up Organizing for Action’s position, Sperry adds.

OfA will be soon aided by “the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, launched last month by Obama pal Eric Holder to end what he and Obama call GOP ‘gerrymandering’ of congressional districts.”

And more unruly protests, rioting, and violent attacks on Trump supporters will follow.

 

Two things:

Trump ran as a Republican. He isn't one though.

I also can't recall anyone ever accusing Trump of being a conservative.

But I find this article (and for the time being I'll go with that label) hilarious. It's full of speculation, nothing substantive. And I'll concede that Obama got his political start in the home of a domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers. But that doesn't mean he's going around directing an army of 30,000 foot soldiers at this present time. I'm not convinced that there isn't a coordinated effort on some level to disrupt President Trump, but this sounds way too fantastic to be taken seriously.

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16 hours ago, CCole1983 said:

Two things:

Trump ran as a Republican. He isn't one though.

I also can't recall anyone ever accusing Trump of being a conservative.

But I find this article (and for the time being I'll go with that label) hilarious. It's full of speculation, nothing substantive. And I'll concede that Obama got his political start in the home of a domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers. But that doesn't mean he's going around directing an army of 30,000 foot soldiers at this present time. I'm not convinced that there isn't a coordinated effort on some level to disrupt President Trump, but this sounds way too fantastic to be taken seriously.

What is a republican....    maybe the President really is a Republican for he sure got a lot of votes....   even though the establishment did all they could to keep him from winning the Primaries...

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